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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 02:48 PM
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Installed euro's as per instructions,cut the white wire and now I have no brake lights and I get "service traction sys" even without moving.

If I reconnect the white wire the message goes away .......any ideas???
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 05:43 PM
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Installed euro's as per instructions,cut the white wire and now I have no brake lights and I get "service traction sys" even without moving.

If I reconnect the white wire the message goes away .......any ideas???

It almost sounds as though you may have cut a wire on the wrong plug. I have a 2000, and I have friends with a 2001 and a 2002. We all installed the euro lights, cut the white wire, and they all work fine. All cutting the white wire should do is stop the ambers from lighting up when the brakes are applied. If you do not cut the white wire, the ambers will illuminate, along with the reds, whenever you step on the brakes. With the white wire cut, the ambers (only) should come on when turn signals are used or flashers are activated.
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Old Oct 5, 2005 | 05:59 PM
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Correct.
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 01:18 PM
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Thanks for the reply's.

I cut the white wire that goes directly into the brake switch....I am pretty sure it is the correct one.

All the other lights function properly
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 01:51 PM
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Did you do all this?

http://www.c5forum.com/diy/reareuro/

....and, did you cut this white wire???

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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 01:55 PM
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thats the one.........as soon as it's cut I get service traction sys and it won't let me clear the code.........
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 02:10 PM
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And, did you follow the directions in the rest of the link posted above -- specifically, did you use that harness?

In other words, does it look like this:

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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 02:12 PM
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Oh, again, not to be dense, you cut the white wire of the three into the connector? Mind checking again?

Because if you used the correct harness, and cut the correct wire, then I don't know.
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I did everything the instructions said........

I looked @ the harness that I got and it has 6 pins.......the harness on my car('98) has seven.....I think thats the problem.

do you know if the harnesses are year specific??
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 02:16 PM
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i have the euro harness on my 98 and it works fine, harness is for 97-04
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 02:23 PM
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I think the harness is the problem...........

can anyone tell me how many pins are in the connector you have,or on your vehicle??

Thanks for all responses

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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 02:25 PM
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Have you called the vendor?

I've got mine all bundled up, zip tied, and tucked away.

Tell me it's PFYC?
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I bought it from a local guy(who I pm'ed).

It was brand new.........I will contact PFYC and see if they can help

Thanks again for your help.....
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OK I'll take a stab at this- I too had a crappy harness. Caused my brake lights to not work but turn on my parking and fog lights. I found it was a bad ground in the euro harness.

Seems that the ground in the tail light circuit is related to the traction control system. What I did, was take a tap splice, splice into the ground wire of the brake light harness's BRAKE wire. And then, ground the new "ground wire" to the grounding point behind the left rear wheel (nut removes with deep 10 mm socket) using ring terminal. While in there, CLEAN that ground.

Give this a shot. I'll almost bet this fixes the problem.
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 03:13 PM
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That sounds like the likeliest solution.

Can you tell me what color the ground wire was??

I am going to wait till I hear from the guy who sold it to me before I start cutting any more wires......maybe he has another harness.

I really don't want to start splicing if I don't have to

If anybody else has any more ideas......?

Thanks again for all responses.
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by eRiCdWoNg
OK I'll take a stab at this- I too had a crappy harness. Caused my brake lights to not work but turn on my parking and fog lights. I found it was a bad ground in the euro harness.

Seems that the ground in the tail light circuit is related to the traction control system. What I did, was take a tap splice, splice into the ground wire of the brake light harness's BRAKE wire. And then, ground the new "ground wire" to the grounding point behind the left rear wheel (nut removes with deep 10 mm socket) using ring terminal. While in there, CLEAN that ground.

Give this a shot. I'll almost bet this fixes the problem.
I told you, Molson, PFYC checks in -- they know a lot about harnesses and what's wrong with them.

Hi, Eric.
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 04:28 PM
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So thats why my ambers light up when i brake. Oh sorry i wasnt the one who installed mine. They were already installed and someone had mentioned that they light up when i brake and I thought it was normal. Good thing this was brought up. Good luck on finding your gremlins
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 04:58 PM
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Are you going to cut that wire? Do you feel lucky?
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Old Oct 6, 2005 | 09:57 PM
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luck is never on my side and why should it be for this occasion. But hell, hasnt stopped me before.
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Originally Posted by DPG
luck is never on my side and why should it be for this occasion. But hell, hasnt stopped me before.
Record the scream and post it.
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