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I just installed a "catch can" on my stroked C5. During the install I starting thinking about the rest of the PCV system. The motor has the LS6 valley pan which loops the back to the TB (or in this case the port of the LSX intake right behind the TB). In this loop is the PCV valve.
The drivers side rear valve cover port is plugged and the passenger side valve cover line that used to go to the stock TB is just hanging there.
What is the best way to route this system with the new catch can and LS6 valley pan??
I have mine set running the port of the LS valley cover to the top of the catch can, and the other port on the catch can goes to the PCV valve that goes to the mainfiold. The port on the front of the passenger side valve cover goes to a grommet that has a short plastic tube (I used a PCV fitting from another car) and I have the grommet fitted into a hole in the side of my airbridge with the plastic tube inserted there. The idea is you have higher pressure in front of the throttle body blade and lower pressure behind it. You want the pressure differential to drive the PCV.
I have mine set running the port of the LS valley cover to the top of the catch can, and the other port on the catch can goes to the PCV valve that goes to the mainfiold. The port on the front of the passenger side valve cover goes to a grommet that has a short plastic tube (I used a PCV fitting from another car) and I have the grommet fitted into a hole in the side of my airbridge with the plastic tube inserted there. The idea is you have higher pressure in front of the throttle body blade and lower pressure behind it. You want the pressure differential to drive the PCV.
I have the same setup as you. Except my 2004 did not come with PCV valve. I don't really understand the pressure differntial, why its there and
how it works. Does the line going from the passenger valve cover to the air bridge draw air from the valve cover vent or supply air to it?????
Well, it should. It depends on 2 things. If you are getting oil into the intake and it stops it AND if that is the oil that is burning. The catch can has varying degrees of success depending on the car. I have one on mine and it works, but it isn't perfect. I still get oil in the intake, but it is less and I still get a little puff of smoke out the pipes the first time I blast it after driving for a while, but it is less than before. Some people have had this problem solved completely by the addition of a catch can. I wish I was one of them.
I have the same setup as you. Except my 2004 did not come with PCV valve. I don't really understand the pressure differntial, why its there and
how it works. Does the line going from the passenger valve cover to the air bridge draw air from the valve cover vent or supply air to it?????
Thanks,
DH
The throttle blade causes higher pressure right in front of it because of inertia. When the throttle blade is open air is traveling into the motor at a rapid rate, when it closes some air 'bunches up' in front of it for a breif interval. That air pressure then goes into the valve cover via tb port to give the crankcase 'fresh' air. The area behind the tb has lower pressure due to the 'vacuum' created by the engine breathing. So the cranckcase will have air evacuated from it by the valley cover (on late LS1 or LS6 motors) or the driver's side valve cover area into the intake.
I need a step by step on how to do this with the 2001 Ls6 system. WHere can i find that. I think there were changes in 02.
If you have an LS6 valley cover you will have a short hose coming from the valley cover PCV tube. It's located on the passengers side close to the center of the block directly under the intake manifold. The hose will go to a fitting on the intake manifold on the passengers side right behind the throttle body. The PCV valve will be at this end. Put the hoses on your catch can. Connect the input of you catch can to the valley cover tube. Cut the hose connecting to your PCV valve about 2" back and put a hose coupling in it. Connect the output from your catch can to this coupling. Essentially you are putting the catch can between the valley cover tube and the pcv valve in an effort to 'catch' oil mist and vapor that has escaped the valley cover. LS1howto.com has the procedure for you but you don't need to remove you manifold and cut the boss, etc. Just use the part from where you install the can.
Awesome, that is the best and shotest writ up i have see of it. I see the hose leaving from behind the throttle body and the PCV valve is about 8 inche into it if you trace it to the block. The valve still rattles so i know it works. So basically i just want to put the can in between this valve and as close to the block as possible right??
Is the DIY catch can the best or do you reccomend one i should buy??
[QUOTE=robertpel9] So basically i just want to put the can in between this valve and as close to the block as possible right??
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FWIW: I put mine away from the engine....up front of the radiator shroud on the right frame. This way the can stays cooler and there is a longer distance for the oil fumes to make it back to the intake.
I just looked now while checking my oil (i am not suing any again now that i am away fromt he track)
Anyway the hose with the PCV valve on it is short. It a short loop from the middle of the passenger side of the engine and loops to the passenger side still just behind the throttle body. I assume this is the hose the can goes in?
Do i want it on the "engine" side of the hose between the engine and the PCV valve or the "throttle body" side of the hose between the Throttle body and the PCV. And are you saying to add a lot more hose as the factory set up is short.
Please advise. I am ready to do this tomorrow night but want to do it right. I am thinking i don't have the ring issue and rather it is just oil getting into the intake under my usual aggresive driving.
I just looked now while checking my oil (i am not suing any again now that i am away fromt he track)
Anyway the hose with the PCV valve on it is short. It a short loop from the middle of the passenger side of the engine and loops to the passenger side still just behind the throttle body. I assume this is the hose the can goes in?
Do i want it on the "engine" side of the hose between the engine and the PCV valve or the "throttle body" side of the hose between the Throttle body and the PCV. And are you saying to add a lot more hose as the factory set up is short.
Please advise. I am ready to do this tomorrow night but want to do it right. I am thinking i don't have the ring issue and rather it is just oil getting into the intake under my usual aggresive driving.
I mounted my catch can in front of the radiator bulkhead on the frame right next to the passenger headlight. The idea here was to keep the can as far away from the engine bay heat as possible and to add a longer path for the oil vapor to travel so it would cool better by the time it made it to the catch can. There is about 5 feet of hose total. Some guys mount it to the front of the passenger side head, but I wanted the can to be as cool as possible.
I collect oil in the first catch can and the second i turning brown from vapor when the first in line is 1/3 full of oil.
The paper filter is turning brown when it begins to collect oil in the second catch can :