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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 10:57 AM
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anyone else tried this yet on ring and pinion? I just had a set put in about 5 days ago and I'm going out on a limb thinking this is a GOOD thing. I got talked into the process by the shop that installed the gears (Fastech in Balch Springs, Tx). The gear prep was done by Performance Metal. I believe the polishing takes out any chance of impurities and creates an extremely smooth surface. The ring and pinion themselves look like fine silver.

The car has absolutely ZERO slop on the exchanges. No noise. If you closed your eyes and didn't know there was a clutch or shifter, you'd swear it was an caddy automatic shifting. I'm GIDDY. With all of the h/c and exhaust sideshows going on with my car - it's nice to grab back a small slice of civilization. If my T56 ever goes - I'm definitely rebuilding with micro polished internals.

Thanks again to Bob and Sean at Fastech. Excellent job. It was well worth the wait.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 11:02 AM
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Actually I have never heard of doing this. Sounds like a good idea though. I would think the gears would deteriorate back to normal though fairly quickly. Maybe not though.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 11:17 AM
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Thanks for the compliments. You can check out my website at

www.performancemetal.net

I have a lot of before and after pictures on my site. I've actually been doing a lot of transmissions for Rodney at RPM Transmissions (crashed94).
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 11:46 AM
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The gears look very nice, but how much of the case depth does this process remove? If your "removing peaks" then the media must be aggressive enough to affect the case hardening depth.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by BLU-BY-U
anyone else tried this yet on ring and pinion? I just had a set put in about 5 days ago and I'm going out on a limb thinking this is a GOOD thing. I got talked into the process by the shop that installed the gears (Fastech in Balch Springs, Tx). The gear prep was done by Performance Metal. I believe the polishing takes out any chance of impurities and creates an extremely smooth surface. The ring and pinion themselves look like fine silver.

The car has absolutely ZERO slop on the exchanges. No noise. If you closed your eyes and didn't know there was a clutch or shifter, you'd swear it was an caddy automatic shifting. I'm GIDDY. With all of the h/c and exhaust sideshows going on with my car - it's nice to grab back a small slice of civilization. If my T56 ever goes - I'm definitely rebuilding with micro polished internals.

Thanks again to Bob and Sean at Fastech. Excellent job. It was well worth the wait.
Hi Jeff! Neat deal! Im thinking about letting Fastech do my gears too. Sean and Bob do xcellent work.
My speed density tune is kickin azz...Sean, you Da Man! Wash
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 12:42 PM
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Typically the process only removes about a tenth of a thousandth (.0001). It all depends on the hardness of the material.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 01:14 PM
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Our gear sets in the Stage III differentials are always micro-polished. The process is very effective and racers have been doing it for many years, it's just now trickeling down to the street folks that same way cryogenics did from the aerospace industry...
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 01:59 PM
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We have been doing this to are shifter kart trannies for years.Knight and day difference. When I purchsed my diff from DYNOTECH this was an option I defintly wanted. All I can tell you is that it quieter than the original diff.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 02:08 PM
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This process has been around for years and is more commonly known as "vibratory tumble finishing, AKA Isotropic finishing".
It's main purpose is to eliminate the break in period of sliding parts such as gears.
It has very little value for noise reduction or the strengthening of the parent material.
It will remove small stress risers that could result in sudden impact failure, but then so will micro shotpeening. Which also had the advantage of leaving a harder compressive layer on the surface of the gear along with small pockets for oil retention.
It will make you lighter though! LOL
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Typically the process only removes about a tenth of a thousandth (.0001). It all depends on the hardness of the material.
This sounds like an OK process for Induction Hardened gear sets like ring&pinions and maybe gearset carriers, but I'd be wary of using it on a case hardened set if it takes off more than 15-20 microns. .0001 is a heck of alot on a gear tooth form. Plus, most case depths don't run much over .0005. So in effect you have the potential to remove 20% of your durability protection on a case hardened gear.
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 03:08 PM
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I have a 390 with cryoed and polished gears. The reduced friction reduced temp and improved the parasitic hp loss. This is very common in the racing industry. If you really want a thrill, try this with your tranny, but open up that pocketbook!
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by gorillavettte
If you really want a thrill, try this with your tranny, but open up that pocketbook!
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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 04:06 PM
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Good thread, I learned something new today.
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