Ceramic brake pads
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Le Mans Master
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Ceramic brake pads
I posted this question in the "general" room. I would like to hear from this side. I want to put a set on a new set of dimppled/slotted silver zinc rotors but don't want to mess up the surface of the rotors with creamic pads if they do this.
Anyone have pictures of their silver zinc coated rotors after using ceramic pads on them for awhile. I hear of lost of stopping power with ceramics and I also hear there isn't any noticable than the stock ones.
As bad as I want to get away from the brake dust, I don't want dull looking rotors.
Thanks,
Rsty
Anyone have pictures of their silver zinc coated rotors after using ceramic pads on them for awhile. I hear of lost of stopping power with ceramics and I also hear there isn't any noticable than the stock ones.
As bad as I want to get away from the brake dust, I don't want dull looking rotors.
Thanks,
Rsty
Melting Slicks
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I'm also considering ceramics and have been doing some reading about them. Like anything else, there are differences between brands that affect how they perform. I'm not ready to decide either, but so far Akebono pads sound pretty good. I haven't seen anything about dull roters but would like to know, also.
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My GM ceramic pads very quickly removed any signs of Zinc plating on my rotor's friction surfaces...... but the friction surfaces look exactly like the stock rotors did once this happens as its the same material underneath (cast Iron I think). If your wanting the Zinc to stay on my guess is won't for long regardless of the pad but I could be wrong. The surface looked kind of nasty during while the Zinc was being rubbed off but it didn't take long.
As far as stopping power I can tell no difference from stock but then again I don't use the full potential of the brakes that often.
As far as less dust......LOTS less.
As far as stopping power I can tell no difference from stock but then again I don't use the full potential of the brakes that often.
As far as less dust......LOTS less.
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Originally Posted by PewterC5
My GM ceramic pads very quickly removed any signs of Zinc plating on my rotor's friction surfaces...... but the friction surfaces look exactly like the stock rotors did once this happens as its the same material underneath (cast Iron I think). If your wanting the Zinc to stay on my guess is won't for long regardless of the pad but I could be wrong. The surface looked kind of nasty during while the Zinc was being rubbed off but it didn't take long.
As far as stopping power I can tell no difference from stock but then again I don't use the full potential of the brakes that often.
As far as less dust......LOTS less.
As far as stopping power I can tell no difference from stock but then again I don't use the full potential of the brakes that often.
As far as less dust......LOTS less.
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there are many post and pictures of ceramic pad damage... You guys will search and search until you hear what you want to here...Ive offered you both open foum and private message help on more than one occassion....I just dont get it. I sometimes wonder why I waste my time.
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Originally Posted by Evil-Twin
there are many post and pictures of ceramic pad damage... You guys will search and search until you hear what you want to here...Ive offered you both open foum and private message help on more than one occassion....I just dont get it. I sometimes wonder why I waste my time.
My car is a daily driver, not a show car, so I'm probably not the best person to respond to a thread like this if the expectation is at Evil-Twin's level of "clean and purty".
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Originally Posted by Icemanskis
The zinc coating is going to be removed from the fire path of the brake pad no matter what type of pad you are using. The zinc protects from rust the portion of the rotor that the brake pad does not touch. Do you have any pics of your rotors with the ceramics? I am very interested in this as well.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1207943
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From: American Canyon Lethal Injection
Originally Posted by Evil-Twin
there are many post and pictures of ceramic pad damage... You guys will search and search until you hear what you want to here...Ive offered you both open foum and private message help on more than one occassion....I just dont get it. I sometimes wonder why I waste my time.
The name fits you well. Leave it to you to **** in the punch
You are 110% correct, we hear what we want to hear. I don't jam my brakes for stopping, because I do normal street driving. I do show my car at local car shows. I seen one car that has drilled/slotted rotors..silver zinc coated..they shine like a new quarter, but I can't recall what type pads he uses. I would like the "dust free" ceramics..but I want the "fire path" not to be dull or blue from heat. SO the choice is. 1. Stock GM pads. 2. Hawk HPS pads (which I have on now). 3. Ceramic pads.
I'm lean towards the Hawk HPS pads with light grey dust compared to the black dust.
Thanks for the valuble input from all of you.
Rsty
Last edited by SLPRC5; Dec 17, 2005 at 08:15 PM.
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Originally Posted by Evil-Twin
there are many post and pictures of ceramic pad damage... You guys will search and search until you hear what you want to here...Ive offered you both open foum and private message help on more than one occassion....I just dont get it. I sometimes wonder why I waste my time.
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My wife usually has low blood pressure....We went to a new doctor, you guess it he said my wife had high blood pressure and needed to have follow up visits to correct it... WE said wow My wife has a history of low blood pressure.. the doctor said " let me check her again" ... you guess it he said my wife does have low blood pressure and needs follow up visits to correct it.... the bastards..
I have stock AC Delco pads, they are soft, massage the fire path to a point where they look like chrome... they stop on a dime, and I have never had an issue with brake dust... I have maintained this position with pictures to prove it for four years.
50,000 miles and they look better than new.
I sometimes like to **** in the punch....it's what I do.
I have stock AC Delco pads, they are soft, massage the fire path to a point where they look like chrome... they stop on a dime, and I have never had an issue with brake dust... I have maintained this position with pictures to prove it for four years.
50,000 miles and they look better than new.
I sometimes like to **** in the punch....it's what I do.
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From: American Canyon Lethal Injection
Originally Posted by Evil-Twin
My wife usually has low blood pressure....We went to a new doctor, you guess it he said my wife had high blood pressure and needed to have follow up visits to correct it... WE said wow My wife has a history of low blood pressure.. the doctor said " let me check her again" ... you guess it he said my wife does have low blood pressure and needs follow up visits to correct it.... the bastards..
I have stock AC Delco pads, they are soft, massage the fire path to a point where they look like chrome... they stop on a dime, and I have never had an issue with brake dust... I have maintained this position with pictures to prove it for four years.
50,000 miles and they look better than new.
I sometimes like to **** in the punch....it's what I do.
I have stock AC Delco pads, they are soft, massage the fire path to a point where they look like chrome... they stop on a dime, and I have never had an issue with brake dust... I have maintained this position with pictures to prove it for four years.
50,000 miles and they look better than new.
I sometimes like to **** in the punch....it's what I do.
Again ET you are soooooo funny...You got me leaning towards stock GM pads.
One one more opinon from you and then I won't
this again. What do you think of using Hawk HPS pads on the zinc coated rotors?This is what my non-zinc coated rotors look like with Hawk HPS pads.
Your rotors look great
Thanks,
Rsty
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I can't see your rotors in that picture...and I have little experience with those pads.... you will use them anyway... no matter what I say.,..BTW the horse died a few days ago...
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From: American Canyon Lethal Injection
Originally Posted by Evil-Twin
I can't see your rotors in that picture...and I have little experience with those pads.... you will use them anyway... no matter what I say.,..BTW the horse died a few days ago...
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Originally Posted by Evil-Twin
I sometimes like to **** in the punch....it's what I do.
Originally Posted by 99 vett babycar
Yes, Yes but you do it SO WELL !
Thanks for noticing
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Originally Posted by Evil-Twin
I have stock AC Delco pads, they are soft, massage the fire path to a point where they look like chrome... they stop on a dime, and I have never had an issue with brake dust...
I am going back to the stock GM pads after 4 yrs of Hawks....
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Originally Posted by YO-EL
One of THE BEST DEALER TECHS in the country, Steve Spencer @ Bryner Chevrolet in Jenkintown PA, said the EXACT same thing to me when I asked him what pads he recommends..
I am going back to the stock GM pads after 4 yrs of Hawks....
I am going back to the stock GM pads after 4 yrs of Hawks....
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Originally Posted by YO-EL
One of THE BEST DEALER TECHS in the country, Steve Spencer @ Bryner Chevrolet in Jenkintown PA, said the EXACT same thing to me when I asked him what pads he recommends..
I am going back to the stock GM pads after 4 yrs of Hawks....
I am going back to the stock GM pads after 4 yrs of Hawks....
RstyNuts, just wants someone to tell him his hawk pads are ok to use.
No matter how you wrap them in different colored paper or no matter how you change the color of the bow... the package is still the same.
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Once and for all, no matter what kind of rotor, what kind of coating or what kind of pad, where the pad contacts the rotor will be shiny uncoated bare metal. If not, you've got a problem and reduced braking because the only way brakes work efficiently is when the pad is grabbing uncoated metal. You don't need a second opinion on this.