I need more power! where do i start!?
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I need more power! where do i start!?
I've got a 99 Coupe-6speed. Its got a 73,000 on it and i'm not sure what to do with it. Currently have B&B bullets, MTI ram air system and a high flow air bridge. Going to finish the exhaust with LG's longtubes/cats/x-pipe and a tune. I'm absolutely lost after this point, i'd LOVE to have a 402 LS2 with the Paxton kit bit thats a LOOONG ways away. Back to reality, where do i start? I'd also like to slap on a magnuson or the paxton and call it a day...but do i dare risk the motor? or will it handle it even with that many miles? or do i start with the motor? uses some oil already but i drive it pretty hard. what do i do!? help!
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I would do long tubes, intake, heads/cam, and tune in that order and then go from there. If you want to go forced induction you might want to do a leakdown test, decrease compression, and consider a forged block.
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Instead of spending $2k on long tube headers I would apply that money to a NOVI 2000. You don't need long tubes to make 500+ rwhp.
500-550 rwhp is fine on a stock LS1 provided the motor is in decent shape to begin with and your tune is decent.
Mark
500-550 rwhp is fine on a stock LS1 provided the motor is in decent shape to begin with and your tune is decent.
Mark
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thanks for the tips! I think putting the 2 grand towards the NOVI makes more sense, especially if I dont need them with it. What other necessary mods are needed with the NOVI? or can i just run what I have, it'll just put down less?
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You might want to replace the clutch when you do the blower. Some people replace the valve springs when they go FI and some don't. I spent the extra $150 on Comp 918's just for added peace of mind.
Remember, fuel upgrades are included with the ECS Novi kit.
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Remember, fuel upgrades are included with the ECS Novi kit.
Cheers,
Mark
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Originally Posted by mdhmi
Instead of spending $2k on long tube headers I would apply that money to a NOVI 2000. You don't need long tubes to make 500+ rwhp.
500-550 rwhp is fine on a stock LS1 provided the motor is in decent shape to begin with and your tune is decent.
Mark
500-550 rwhp is fine on a stock LS1 provided the motor is in decent shape to begin with and your tune is decent.
Mark
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Originally Posted by EnglandGreen
ECS Paxton Novi kit It always seems like people start with the small things first, then do the big thing. I did the big thing first, then added the small things afterwards as necessary. I started with the blower, and fuel upgrades. Drove it for a while, then added full exhaust and alky injection. Instead of messing with boltons, then saving up for a blower, why not do a blower first then save up for boltons? That will get you much more power much quicker.
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Originally Posted by Warp Factor
No point dinkin' around. Just go with some kind of blower.
My Paxton's on a stock motor and clutch and all's well (so far?)
Then sell blower because it just felt like a fast Lexus with no soul.
Then buy headers, intake, cam etc. Make 384rwhp and a lopey idle.
Then buy 3.90 gears, 3600 stall and Rodney race A4.
Then sell LS1 and buy a 412ci LS2 with an even bigger cam, LQ9 heads and a ECS Paxton blower and try for 750rwhp
My point is - you can do this the right way or you can do this the wrong way. Either way is going to cost you
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Originally Posted by EnglandGreen
..it just felt like a fast Lexus with no soul.
EG
EG
British people don't know nothin' bout soul!!!
Hey, we better say something nice about "cam and heads", and get back over to FI before we get in trouble.
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Originally Posted by EnglandGreen
Or just do what I did : bolt on a ATI P-1SC on a otherwise stock motor and make 497rwhp
Then sell blower because it just felt like a fast Lexus with no soul.
Then buy headers, intake, cam etc. Make 384rwhp and a lopey idle.
Then buy 3.90 gears, 3600 stall and Rodney race A4.
Then sell LS1 and buy a 412ci LS2 with an even bigger cam, LQ9 heads and a ECS Paxton blower and try for 750rwhp
My point is - you can do this the right way or you can do this the wrong way. Either way is going to cost you
EG
Then sell blower because it just felt like a fast Lexus with no soul.
Then buy headers, intake, cam etc. Make 384rwhp and a lopey idle.
Then buy 3.90 gears, 3600 stall and Rodney race A4.
Then sell LS1 and buy a 412ci LS2 with an even bigger cam, LQ9 heads and a ECS Paxton blower and try for 750rwhp
My point is - you can do this the right way or you can do this the wrong way. Either way is going to cost you
EG
If you want to be with the biggest dogs go direct to ECS or A&A and get the biggest motor you can afford with the newest blower. Just my thoughts as I spent time building my 700+ rwhp with room to grow
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Just wanted to thank everyone again for the advice, really starting to lift the weight off my shoulders, spring is comin (and so is the tax money! ) so i really wanted to get goin on something before its too late and my car's tied up when its time to drive! Especially in MN the fun is limited. Anyhow, i'm leaning towards the Novi 2000 on a conservative tune for now (til i can afford the 402, most likely next winter). I also need a tranny/diff due to being wrecked from excessive wheel hop so i'll being going with a Z06 trans and diff/diff strut from DTE. So might as well do the clutch and flywheel, which brings up my next question...which brand? I was thinking SPEC stage III with billet flywheel? what do you guys think? Any input is appreciated and considered...i'm pretty new to this, only a 21 yr old vette owner since June 05 so...even if u think i'm doing it all wrong, please let me know or steer me clear of disaster, i can only afford to do this once! Thanks guys!
) so i really wanted to get goin on something before its too late and my car's tied up when its time to drive! Especially in MN the fun is limited. Anyhow, i'm leaning towards the Novi 2000 on a conservative tune for now (til i can afford the 402, most likely next winter). I also need a tranny/diff due to being wrecked from excessive wheel hop so i'll being going with a Z06 trans and diff/diff strut from DTE. So might as well do the clutch and flywheel, which brings up my next question...which brand? I was thinking SPEC stage III with billet flywheel? what do you guys think? Any input is appreciated and considered...i'm pretty new to this, only a 21 yr old vette owner since June 05 so...even if u think i'm doing it all wrong, please let me know or steer me clear of disaster, i can only afford to do this once! Thanks guys!
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Originally Posted by 99WhtC5
Just wanted to thank everyone again for the advice, really starting to lift the weight off my shoulders, spring is comin (and so is the tax money! ) so i really wanted to get goin on something before its too late and my car's tied up when its time to drive! Especially in MN the fun is limited. Anyhow, i'm leaning towards the Novi 2000 on a conservative tune for now (til i can afford the 402, most likely next winter). I also need a tranny/diff due to being wrecked from excessive wheel hop so i'll being going with a Z06 trans and diff/diff strut from DTE. So might as well do the clutch and flywheel, which brings up my next question...which brand? I was thinking SPEC stage III with billet flywheel? what do you guys think? Any input is appreciated and considered...i'm pretty new to this, only a 21 yr old vette owner since June 05 so...even if u think i'm doing it all wrong, please let me know or steer me clear of disaster, i can only afford to do this once! Thanks guys!
) so i really wanted to get goin on something before its too late and my car's tied up when its time to drive! Especially in MN the fun is limited. Anyhow, i'm leaning towards the Novi 2000 on a conservative tune for now (til i can afford the 402, most likely next winter). I also need a tranny/diff due to being wrecked from excessive wheel hop so i'll being going with a Z06 trans and diff/diff strut from DTE. So might as well do the clutch and flywheel, which brings up my next question...which brand? I was thinking SPEC stage III with billet flywheel? what do you guys think? Any input is appreciated and considered...i'm pretty new to this, only a 21 yr old vette owner since June 05 so...even if u think i'm doing it all wrong, please let me know or steer me clear of disaster, i can only afford to do this once! Thanks guys!