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Old Jan 14, 2006 | 10:40 AM
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I just installed Kooks on the car and had it downtown last night and threww a couple codes and check engine light came on, here's codes 10 PCM P0420 and 0430 C and h, and that equates to ; Low Efficiency Band 1-A and 2-A resepctively.

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are you running cats? then again,even if you were,they are probably high flows.you have 2 choices,either get a set of simms or edit the rear o2's out.if you are using cats and rear o2's make sure there are no air leaks around the o2's
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Originally Posted by EBZ0602
I just installed Kooks on the car and had it downtown last night and threww a couple codes and check engine light came on, here's codes 10 PCM P0420 and 0430 C and h, and that equates to ; Low Efficiency Band 1-A and 2-A resepctively.

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The lower efficiency of the cats makes the PCM think that they have lost effiency. I'd have a tuner turn them off, don't think you can modify the test parameters.
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Thanks guys,
dbd, I do have cat the matrix high flow. I looked and saw no visible signs of leaks. I can clear the codes, and run up and down the hyw. no problem. It's when I sit and idle that this happens.

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dbd, I do have cat the matrix high flow. I looked and saw no visible signs of leaks. I can clear the codes, and run up and down the hyw. no problem. It's when I sit and idle that this happens.

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the rear o2's are cooling off.a couple of ways to fix it:
get it tuned out
try new rear o2's[newer heaters]
install simms
the higher flowing/efficent cats are blowing so much by the 02's[cooling them] that their voltages are staying in sync with the fronts[that's how the pcm knows cat efficency,by looking at the fronts and comparing the rears,if they are close to being the same voltages,the pcm fails the cats].make sure they are tight,no leaks around them[up/down stream]within 6" .if all is ok,try new rear o2's.you can check the o2 fuse for ha-ha's but i would assume it's good because you just have cat faults.
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