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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 10:47 AM
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Hope you young guys have a great week at work. How does the oil life percentage display arrive at it's numbers? Thanks to each who share your knowledge on this forum. All who read it have been helped in some way. Frank
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 12:50 PM
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AS an Old guy, I was going to give you the answers you seek, but you left me out of your greeting so, fergetaboutit.,although you have asked this question twice in both C5 forum and have received the answer, here it is again.

http://service.gm.com:8083/gmtechlin...k_MAY_2003.pdf

The Oil life algorithms were written after months and months of testing and analyzing oil samples under all types of conditions. It includes but not inclusive of, rpm, oil temp, load, engine heat cycle starts, that is cold or warm starts, engine run time. It uses a clock system to count down to 0%. Early cars used a 10,000 mile base line while newer C5's 2000+ used 15000 miles as a base line.

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AS an Old guy, I was going to give you the answers you seek, but you left me out of your greeting so, fergetaboutit.,
Really now is that any way to great a new member?
Welcome to the forum Frank.
I believe it based on the number of starts and time running, is can't measure dirt or oil dilution so I just usually chang my oil every 5000 miles and it has worked great for me.
Another "Old Guy"
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And, as yet another Old Guy, I've been using the Oil Life Monitor for the last two oil changes and had the results analyzed by Blackstone labs.

Using Mobil 1 10w-30, when I got to 0% remaining oil life, the oil had a decent percentage of it's additive package left, and the impurities were about average. So, it seems like when the OLM gets to 0%, it's time to change the oil. Any sooner and it's:

1. To make you feel more comfortable with your engine
2. A waste of time and money

Pick the one that makes you feel best.

HTH, and have a good one,
Mike

BTW, ET is like those two guys in Second Hand Lions: if they don't shoot you they've got great stories!
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 06:45 PM
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we're ALL old here
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Old Jan 16, 2006 | 11:15 PM
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doesnt it count if i just feel old?
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by VetteDrmr
And, as yet another Old Guy, I've been using the Oil Life Monitor for the last two oil changes and had the results analyzed by Blackstone labs.

Using Mobil 1 10w-30, when I got to 0% remaining oil life, the oil had a decent percentage of it's additive package left, and the impurities were about average. So, it seems like when the OLM gets to 0%, it's time to change the oil. Any sooner and it's:

1. To make you feel more comfortable with your engine
2. A waste of time and money

Pick the one that makes you feel best.

HTH, and have a good one,
Mike

BTW, ET is like those two guys in Second Hand Lions: if they don't shoot you they've got great stories!
i know on my '98 chevy recommends 5w-30. so maybe by using 10w-30 the algorithms aren't as accurate.
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Old Jan 18, 2006 | 07:04 PM
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Umm, I'm not sure why you say that. 5w vs 10w-30 oil changes some of the viscosity parameters Blackstone uses to analyze the oil, but the wear content and additive package are the same.

Have a good one,
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we're ALL old here
im not old im 19, but frank to tell you the truth i think Evil twin was just being sarcastic and saying that he was old, some guys sometimes on here come off as sounding mean but they dont mean it, be sure to look for the little smily faces too, when i was new i got confused too, im not a big computer guy either. WElcome and i hope you got the answer to your question
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Another old guy here...

GM's description of the system which you might find interesting:
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Originally Posted by Evil-Twin
AS an Old guy, I was going to give you the answers you seek, but you left me out of your greeting so, fergetaboutit.,although you have asked this question twice in both C5 forum and have received the answer, here it is again.

http://service.gm.com:8083/gmtechlin...k_MAY_2003.pdf

The Oil life algorithms were written after months and months of testing and analyzing oil samples under all types of conditions. It includes but not inclusive of, rpm, oil temp, load, engine heat cycle starts, that is cold or warm starts, engine run time. It uses a clock system to count down to 0%. Early cars used a 10,000 mile base line while newer C5's 2000+ used 15000 miles as a base line.

ET - is there any significant change in the engine from the early years to 2001 ? I have a 1998, can I reset my Oil Life to zero at 50% without any bad consequences ? I usually go about 6500 miles until 2% left, I once got an oil analysis and it said I could try adding another 1000 miles next oil change.
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Old Jan 19, 2006 | 11:21 AM
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ET - is there any significant change in the engine from the early years to 2001 ? I have a 1998, can I reset my Oil Life to zero at 50% without any bad consequences ? I usually go about 6500 miles until 2% left, I once got an oil analysis and it said I could try adding another 1000 miles next oil change.
The difference is in the PCM and the original algorithms using a base line of 10,000 miles. The engines are very similar. In my opinion, only because your analysis said you could go another 1000 miles, I would not want to tell you to reset your oil life monitor. I understand where you are going. Faking out the Monitor leads to " did I reset at 50%??? " You know how us old guys can get confused. I suggest you run the oil life down to 0%. you then will have a safety blanket. So dont think when it gets down to zero, you have to immediately drop everything and get an oil change.. I would make sure the oil change was done within the week. I dont know how many miles you put on the car in a year, but what you have done so far is great, I would not want you to change mid stream. These cars can go 200K if they are taken care of. I hope this helps you keep up the good work with the car.
Bill aka ET

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Originally Posted by Evil-Twin
The difference is in the PCM and the original algorithms using a base line of 10,000 miles. The engines are very similar. In my opinion, only because your analysis said you could go another 1000 miles, I would not want to tell you to reset your oil life monitor. I understand where you are going. Faking out the Monitor leads to " did I reset at 50%??? " You know how us old guys can get confused. I suggest you run the oil life down to 0%. you then will have a safety blanket. So dont think when it gets down to zero, you have to immediately drop everything and get an oil change.. I would make sure the oil change was done within the week. I dont know how many miles you put on the car in a year, but what you have done so far is great, I would not want you to change mid stream. These cars can go 200K if they are taken care of. I hope this helps you keep up the good work with the car.
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Sounds like very sound advice to me.
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These cars can go 200K if they are taken care of. Bill aka ET
Oh No !!!!!

This means I am down to 70% on the "Car Life Display".

I can't seem to find this on the DIC..............


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Originally Posted by VetteDrmr
And, as yet another Old Guy, I've been using the Oil Life Monitor for the last two oil changes and had the results analyzed by Blackstone labs.

Using Mobil 1 10w-30, when I got to 0% remaining oil life, the oil had a decent percentage of it's additive package left, and the impurities were about average. So, it seems like when the OLM gets to 0%, it's time to change the oil. Any sooner and it's:

1. To make you feel more comfortable with your engine
2. A waste of time and money

Pick the one that makes you feel best.

HTH, and have a good one,
Mike

BTW, ET is like those two guys in Second Hand Lions: if they don't shoot you they've got great stories!
Unless you're like me who doesn't put on 5,000 miles a year. '98 Vert with 19,200. I change the oil using Mobil 1 when I put it away for the winter (Sigh!!!!) I get jealous when I read all the posts from you guys who live south of the Mason/Dixon and can still drive your 'vettes.
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The oil life monitor is pretty cool... I generally follow it or swap in fresh oil before a track event. I get 6-8k between changes with hard driving.
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