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Car is running extremely rich and will throw the P0101 code. I cleaned the MAF and checked for any possilbe vacuum leaks as well as checking the 02 sensors being plugged in. Any ideas?
BTW, car is running 10.8, 11.0 at idle and if I hold it steady at around 2K it will hang around 12.2.
Last edited by Cajundude; Feb 20, 2006 at 12:50 PM.
Pulled the filter out of the VaraRam just in case but no change. Fuel pressure is real high as well. ????? I am running stock injectors right now and do have a base tune for everything.
A few things come to mind. 1. I believe you have one of the newer style MAFs, with the integrated IAT sensor? If so, make sure the sensor (the little appendage just downstream of the MAF screen) is not broken off or gunked up. 2. Check that you don't have a pinched or shorted wire in the harness feeding the throttle body. In particular, check the white wire. 3. Ensure that you haven't over-tightened the clamps at either end of the air bridge. Doing so can cause it to bow in, and cause an air leak. Actually, an air leak anywhere downstream of the MAF can cause this. So make sure that not only are the air bridge clamps not too tight (or too loose), but check the throttle body to manifold connection as well (you can squirt carb cleaner or water on the joint to check it).
If all else fails, here is the troubleshooting procedure for your model year, which should still pretty much apply to the LS2.
could be the cam,depending on how small your LSA is.the pcm uses the map a a redundant signal to look at the maf.if your running a small LSA and low engine vacuum and the maf is seeing high grams per second[rule of thumb is 1 gram for every liter,ex.6.0L= 6 gps]that will throw your fault.if the cam is not radical,i would go look for a air/vacuum leak after the maf[maf/bridge/throttle housing and gasket,etc],and look at the map sensor and connection.
i'm assuming you let the car do a idle relearn.also what are your fuel trims.if you are on the plus side you are running lean and the pcm is fattening you up.if they are negative you are running rich and the pcm is pulling fuel out.
what is your fuel pressure?you said it's too high.if you have the newer maf i'm assuming your car has the fuel pressure regulator in the fuel filter,not on the rail.
if fuel pressure is too high,you will run fat.if you don't have the right amount of air coming in[or the pcm "thinks" you don't have enough air in] you will run rich.
with the 101 fault i would look at the air intake first.JMO
Cam is 228 232 .588 .575 on a 115. I'll check for vacuum leaks but I've done that twice already. The only one I did not check is the rear small one right behind the intake. I do remember plugging it in though. I'll check for it for sure.
Map sensor connection should be fine. The plug was cut and I matched/soldered the extension wires to the relocated plug on the front of the LS2.
Can't answer the fuel trim questions yet. One thing I haven't done (yet) is venture into learning the LSX tuning procedures. I just have a base tune that has worked before with my combo.
Fuel pressure is 61-62 and steady there. Double and triple checked the air intake.
Mr. Lucky,
1. 02 Coupe so yes, I have the internal IAT. I do not have one on the air bridge. I have also gently cleaned the wires behind the screen of the MAF.
2. Will do.
3. Have taken it off a few times but will check connections again and also use carb cleaner by the t-body.
Cam is 228 232 .588 .575 on a 115. I'll check for vacuum leaks but I've done that twice already. The only one I did not check is the rear small one right behind the intake. I do remember plugging it in though. I'll check for it for sure.
Map sensor connection should be fine. The plug was cut and I matched/soldered the extension wires to the relocated plug on the front of the LS2.
Can't answer the fuel trim questions yet. One thing I haven't done (yet) is venture into learning the LSX tuning procedures. I just have a base tune that has worked before with my combo.
Fuel pressure is 61-62 and steady there. Double and triple checked the air intake.
Mr. Lucky,
1. 02 Coupe so yes, I have the internal IAT. I do not have one on the air bridge. I have also gently cleaned the wires behind the screen of the MAF.
2. Will do.
3. Have taken it off a few times but will check connections again and also use carb cleaner by the t-body.
Hey Cajun Dude, had the same prolbem with my G5-X2 camshaft swap.Checked everything I could and finally call the Tunner.The 101 code is MAF Performance.The ECM looks at the air coming though the MAF and compairs it with the MAP senser. The MAF sees lots of air but the MAP doesn't see enough pressure. He change something, I thing the sensitivity of the MAF. PS I'm in the Woodlands and have a great tunner.CALL 281-221-2277
Send me your .hpt and I'll take a look at it.
Phil
Phil, thanks for the offer, I appreciate it. One thing that I have not learned yet is how to computer tune thus I don't have the software. It is on my list, probably next, but I didn't want to mess with it considering the amount of $$$ in this project. Jayson at MTI tunes my car. I will be going there @ 9:00 to have the scanner put on and we'll work it out then (hopefully).
,i thought it would be with the map because your fuel pressure seemed about right and if you had no intake leaks,that's the only thing left that would give you your fault[your cam was too mild]
I am running the same code after my heads and cam install. I had larger injectors ready for my install and everything was cool until I got about 100 miles on the setup and then I through this code everyday. I checked all of my connections, wires and hoses and things are good, my MAF is descreened and I installed performance housing on the MAF and I think that I need to find myself a stock MAF with the screen (for my year if I can find it), this way I can see how things work.
The thread has some great information and I am going to recheck everything again, but I am planning a trip back to my tuner to have my N20 (never used it) tuned in and my new TC.
I am running the same code after my heads and cam install. I had larger injectors ready for my install and everything was cool until I got about 100 miles on the setup and then I through this code everyday. I checked all of my connections, wires and hoses and things are good, my MAF is descreened and I installed performance housing on the MAF and I think that I need to find myself a stock MAF with the screen (for my year if I can find it), this way I can see how things work.
The thread has some great information and I am going to recheck everything again, but I am planning a trip back to my tuner to have my N20 (never used it) tuned in and my new TC.
Put a new MAF on and the code went away, but I had a code thown P0175 (H).
Put a new MAF on and the code went away, but I had a code thown P0175 (H).
Thats just saying your rich on bank 2 arent you tuned rich for nitrous anyways ? I think you still may need a litle more tuning. I wouldnt worry about that one. Atleast no more about the MAF !!
Thats just saying your rich on bank 2 arent you tuned rich for nitrous anyways ? I think you still may need a litle more tuning. I wouldnt worry about that one. Atleast no more about the MAF !!
Yeah, I know, it was something that I laughed about when I saw the check engine light come on and then checked and saw that it was something new. I am going to get things worked out when I go back to my tuner.
I am! Just put another 41 stop and go miles for the break in. That makes 132 miles today for my break in. Need to hit 500 by Friday so I can install the twins this weekend.