C5 Tech Corvette Tech/Performance: LS1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Tech Topics, Basic Tech, Maintenance, How to Remove & Replace
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

P0101 code after engine swap

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 05:11 PM
  #1  
Cajundude's Avatar
Cajundude
Thread Starter
Race Director
Supporting Lifetime Gold
20 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
Active Streak: 60 Days
Active Streak: 90 Days
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 13,550
Likes: 6
From: Now in God's Country, the Big Sky, Montana!
Cruise-In 7-8-9-10 Veteran
St. Jude Donor '06-'07-'08-'09-'10-'11-'12
Default P0101 code after engine swap

FIXED!


Car is running extremely rich and will throw the P0101 code. I cleaned the MAF and checked for any possilbe vacuum leaks as well as checking the 02 sensors being plugged in. Any ideas?

BTW, car is running 10.8, 11.0 at idle and if I hold it steady at around 2K it will hang around 12.2.

Last edited by Cajundude; Feb 20, 2006 at 12:50 PM.
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 05:29 PM
  #2  
Cajundude's Avatar
Cajundude
Thread Starter
Race Director
Supporting Lifetime Gold
20 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
Active Streak: 60 Days
Active Streak: 90 Days
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 13,550
Likes: 6
From: Now in God's Country, the Big Sky, Montana!
Cruise-In 7-8-9-10 Veteran
St. Jude Donor '06-'07-'08-'09-'10-'11-'12
Default

Pulled the filter out of the VaraRam just in case but no change. Fuel pressure is real high as well. ????? I am running stock injectors right now and do have a base tune for everything.
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 06:14 PM
  #3  
Bink's Avatar
Bink
Safety Car
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 4,928
Likes: 1
Cruise-In V Veteran
St. Jude Donor '09
Default

Probably MAF and VE table don't synch - MAF sanity check.
Big cam in new engine? Wideband O2??
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 06:41 PM
  #4  
Cajundude's Avatar
Cajundude
Thread Starter
Race Director
Supporting Lifetime Gold
20 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
Active Streak: 60 Days
Active Streak: 90 Days
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 13,550
Likes: 6
From: Now in God's Country, the Big Sky, Montana!
Cruise-In 7-8-9-10 Veteran
St. Jude Donor '06-'07-'08-'09-'10-'11-'12
Default

MTI G1 in LS2 402. Not that big of a cam at all. I am using an Innovate XD-1 with LC-1.
Reply
Old Feb 18, 2006 | 10:50 PM
  #5  
Mr. Lucky's Avatar
Mr. Lucky
Melting Slicks
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 3,439
Likes: 6
From: Newark, DE
St. Jude Donor '06
Default

A few things come to mind.
1. I believe you have one of the newer style MAFs, with the integrated IAT sensor? If so, make sure the sensor (the little appendage just downstream of the MAF screen) is not broken off or gunked up.
2. Check that you don't have a pinched or shorted wire in the harness feeding the throttle body. In particular, check the white wire.
3. Ensure that you haven't over-tightened the clamps at either end of the air bridge. Doing so can cause it to bow in, and cause an air leak. Actually, an air leak anywhere downstream of the MAF can cause this. So make sure that not only are the air bridge clamps not too tight (or too loose), but check the throttle body to manifold connection as well (you can squirt carb cleaner or water on the joint to check it).

If all else fails, here is the troubleshooting procedure for your model year, which should still pretty much apply to the LS2.

GL!
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2006 | 01:22 AM
  #6  
dpd's Avatar
dpd
Drifting
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,540
Likes: 0
From: bloomfield nj
Default

could be the cam,depending on how small your LSA is.the pcm uses the map a a redundant signal to look at the maf.if your running a small LSA and low engine vacuum and the maf is seeing high grams per second[rule of thumb is 1 gram for every liter,ex.6.0L= 6 gps]that will throw your fault.if the cam is not radical,i would go look for a air/vacuum leak after the maf[maf/bridge/throttle housing and gasket,etc],and look at the map sensor and connection.
i'm assuming you let the car do a idle relearn.also what are your fuel trims.if you are on the plus side you are running lean and the pcm is fattening you up.if they are negative you are running rich and the pcm is pulling fuel out.
what is your fuel pressure?you said it's too high.if you have the newer maf i'm assuming your car has the fuel pressure regulator in the fuel filter,not on the rail.
if fuel pressure is too high,you will run fat.if you don't have the right amount of air coming in[or the pcm "thinks" you don't have enough air in] you will run rich.
with the 101 fault i would look at the air intake first.JMO
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2006 | 11:43 AM
  #7  
Cajundude's Avatar
Cajundude
Thread Starter
Race Director
Supporting Lifetime Gold
20 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
Active Streak: 60 Days
Active Streak: 90 Days
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 13,550
Likes: 6
From: Now in God's Country, the Big Sky, Montana!
Cruise-In 7-8-9-10 Veteran
St. Jude Donor '06-'07-'08-'09-'10-'11-'12
Default

Cam is 228 232 .588 .575 on a 115. I'll check for vacuum leaks but I've done that twice already. The only one I did not check is the rear small one right behind the intake. I do remember plugging it in though. I'll check for it for sure.

Map sensor connection should be fine. The plug was cut and I matched/soldered the extension wires to the relocated plug on the front of the LS2.

Can't answer the fuel trim questions yet. One thing I haven't done (yet) is venture into learning the LSX tuning procedures. I just have a base tune that has worked before with my combo.

Fuel pressure is 61-62 and steady there. Double and triple checked the air intake.

Mr. Lucky,

1. 02 Coupe so yes, I have the internal IAT. I do not have one on the air bridge. I have also gently cleaned the wires behind the screen of the MAF.

2. Will do.

3. Have taken it off a few times but will check connections again and also use carb cleaner by the t-body.
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2006 | 09:04 PM
  #8  
DVS 99's Avatar
DVS 99
Instructor
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 144
Likes: 0
From: Woodlands TX
Default

Originally Posted by Cajundude
Cam is 228 232 .588 .575 on a 115. I'll check for vacuum leaks but I've done that twice already. The only one I did not check is the rear small one right behind the intake. I do remember plugging it in though. I'll check for it for sure.

Map sensor connection should be fine. The plug was cut and I matched/soldered the extension wires to the relocated plug on the front of the LS2.

Can't answer the fuel trim questions yet. One thing I haven't done (yet) is venture into learning the LSX tuning procedures. I just have a base tune that has worked before with my combo.

Fuel pressure is 61-62 and steady there. Double and triple checked the air intake.

Mr. Lucky,

1. 02 Coupe so yes, I have the internal IAT. I do not have one on the air bridge. I have also gently cleaned the wires behind the screen of the MAF.

2. Will do.

3. Have taken it off a few times but will check connections again and also use carb cleaner by the t-body.
Hey Cajun Dude, had the same prolbem with my G5-X2 camshaft swap.Checked everything I could and finally call the Tunner.The 101 code is MAF Performance.The ECM looks at the air coming though the MAF and compairs it with the MAP senser. The MAF sees lots of air but the MAP doesn't see enough pressure. He change something, I thing the sensitivity of the MAF. PS I'm in the Woodlands and have a great tunner.CALL 281-221-2277
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
story-1

2027 Corvette vs The World: Every Model vs Closest Competitor

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

5 MOST and 5 LEAST Popular Corvette Model Years in History!

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

2027 Corvette Buyer's Guide: Everything You Need to Know!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

10 Things C8 Corvette Owners Hate (But Won't Tell You)

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

10 Best Corvettes Coming to Barrett-Jackson Palm Beach 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-7

Every Corvette Grand Sport Explained! (C2, C4, C6, C7, & C8)

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Grand Sport & Grand Sport X Launch Alongside All-New 535hp LS6 V8!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

5 Reasons Bad Drivers Crash & 5 Ways to Avoid a Costly Mistake!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Feb 19, 2006 | 09:32 PM
  #9  
Bink's Avatar
Bink
Safety Car
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 4,928
Likes: 1
Cruise-In V Veteran
St. Jude Donor '09
Default

What tuning software do you have??

Did you change cylinder volume in the PCM to reflect 402 CI ?

Last edited by Bink; Feb 19, 2006 at 09:40 PM.
Reply
Old Feb 19, 2006 | 11:25 PM
  #10  
Phil97SVT's Avatar
Phil97SVT
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 5,577
Likes: 3
From: Southern Maryland Maryland
Default

Send me your .hpt and I'll take a look at it.
Phil
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2006 | 06:04 AM
  #11  
Cajundude's Avatar
Cajundude
Thread Starter
Race Director
Supporting Lifetime Gold
20 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
Active Streak: 60 Days
Active Streak: 90 Days
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 13,550
Likes: 6
From: Now in God's Country, the Big Sky, Montana!
Cruise-In 7-8-9-10 Veteran
St. Jude Donor '06-'07-'08-'09-'10-'11-'12
Default

Originally Posted by Bink
What tuning software do you have??

Did you change cylinder volume in the PCM to reflect 402 CI ?
No tuning software for me, yet. (see next post)

Yes, it was.
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2006 | 06:07 AM
  #12  
Cajundude's Avatar
Cajundude
Thread Starter
Race Director
Supporting Lifetime Gold
20 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
Active Streak: 60 Days
Active Streak: 90 Days
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 13,550
Likes: 6
From: Now in God's Country, the Big Sky, Montana!
Cruise-In 7-8-9-10 Veteran
St. Jude Donor '06-'07-'08-'09-'10-'11-'12
Default

Originally Posted by Phil97SVT
Send me your .hpt and I'll take a look at it.
Phil
Phil, thanks for the offer, I appreciate it. One thing that I have not learned yet is how to computer tune thus I don't have the software. It is on my list, probably next, but I didn't want to mess with it considering the amount of $$$ in this project. Jayson at MTI tunes my car. I will be going there @ 9:00 to have the scanner put on and we'll work it out then (hopefully).
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2006 | 12:45 PM
  #13  
Cajundude's Avatar
Cajundude
Thread Starter
Race Director
Supporting Lifetime Gold
20 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
Active Streak: 60 Days
Active Streak: 90 Days
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 13,550
Likes: 6
From: Now in God's Country, the Big Sky, Montana!
Cruise-In 7-8-9-10 Veteran
St. Jude Donor '06-'07-'08-'09-'10-'11-'12
Default

Broken MAP sensor. Car is running great now!!!!
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2006 | 12:54 PM
  #14  
dpd's Avatar
dpd
Drifting
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,540
Likes: 0
From: bloomfield nj
Default

,i thought it would be with the map because your fuel pressure seemed about right and if you had no intake leaks,that's the only thing left that would give you your fault[your cam was too mild]
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2006 | 01:22 PM
  #15  
mph1972's Avatar
mph1972
Race Director
Supporting Lifetime
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 16,135
Likes: 5
From: Newberry FL
Cruise-In VIII Veteran
St. Jude Donor '07
Default

I am running the same code after my heads and cam install. I had larger injectors ready for my install and everything was cool until I got about 100 miles on the setup and then I through this code everyday. I checked all of my connections, wires and hoses and things are good, my MAF is descreened and I installed performance housing on the MAF and I think that I need to find myself a stock MAF with the screen (for my year if I can find it), this way I can see how things work.

The thread has some great information and I am going to recheck everything again, but I am planning a trip back to my tuner to have my N20 (never used it) tuned in and my new TC.
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2006 | 08:27 PM
  #16  
Mr. Lucky's Avatar
Mr. Lucky
Melting Slicks
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 3,439
Likes: 6
From: Newark, DE
St. Jude Donor '06
Default

Originally Posted by Cajundude
Broken MAP sensor. Car is running great now!!!!


Now enjoy that 402! I do.
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2006 | 08:30 PM
  #17  
mph1972's Avatar
mph1972
Race Director
Supporting Lifetime
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 16,135
Likes: 5
From: Newberry FL
Cruise-In VIII Veteran
St. Jude Donor '07
Default

Originally Posted by mph1972
I am running the same code after my heads and cam install. I had larger injectors ready for my install and everything was cool until I got about 100 miles on the setup and then I through this code everyday. I checked all of my connections, wires and hoses and things are good, my MAF is descreened and I installed performance housing on the MAF and I think that I need to find myself a stock MAF with the screen (for my year if I can find it), this way I can see how things work.

The thread has some great information and I am going to recheck everything again, but I am planning a trip back to my tuner to have my N20 (never used it) tuned in and my new TC.
Put a new MAF on and the code went away, but I had a code thown P0175 (H).
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To P0101 code after engine swap

Old Feb 20, 2006 | 08:34 PM
  #18  
usnskeet21's Avatar
usnskeet21
Instructor
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 198
Likes: 0
From: Seattle Wa
Default

Originally Posted by mph1972
Put a new MAF on and the code went away, but I had a code thown P0175 (H).
Thats just saying your rich on bank 2 arent you tuned rich for nitrous anyways ? I think you still may need a litle more tuning. I wouldnt worry about that one. Atleast no more about the MAF !!
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2006 | 09:18 PM
  #19  
mph1972's Avatar
mph1972
Race Director
Supporting Lifetime
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 16,135
Likes: 5
From: Newberry FL
Cruise-In VIII Veteran
St. Jude Donor '07
Default

Originally Posted by usnskeet21
Thats just saying your rich on bank 2 arent you tuned rich for nitrous anyways ? I think you still may need a litle more tuning. I wouldnt worry about that one. Atleast no more about the MAF !!
Yeah, I know, it was something that I laughed about when I saw the check engine light come on and then checked and saw that it was something new. I am going to get things worked out when I go back to my tuner.

Thanks again for the MAF!

Micah
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2006 | 09:26 PM
  #20  
Cajundude's Avatar
Cajundude
Thread Starter
Race Director
Supporting Lifetime Gold
20 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
Active Streak: 60 Days
Active Streak: 90 Days
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 13,550
Likes: 6
From: Now in God's Country, the Big Sky, Montana!
Cruise-In 7-8-9-10 Veteran
St. Jude Donor '06-'07-'08-'09-'10-'11-'12
Default

Originally Posted by Mr. Lucky


Now enjoy that 402! I do.
I am! Just put another 41 stop and go miles for the break in. That makes 132 miles today for my break in. Need to hit 500 by Friday so I can install the twins this weekend.
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:11 PM.

story-0
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE
story-1
2027 Corvette vs The World: Every Model vs Closest Competitor

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette lineup vs the world.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-20 17:58:41


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

Slideshow: 10 major Corvette problems from the last 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-14 16:37:05


VIEW MORE
story-3
5 MOST and 5 LEAST Popular Corvette Model Years in History!

Slideshow: 5 most and least popular Corvette model years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-08 13:25:01


VIEW MORE
story-4
2027 Corvette Buyer's Guide: Everything You Need to Know!

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette buyer's guide

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-17 16:41:08


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Things C8 Corvette Owners Hate (But Won't Tell You)

Slideshow: 10 things C8 Corvette owners hate, but won't tell you.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-01 18:36:07


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Best Corvettes Coming to Barrett-Jackson Palm Beach 2026!

Slideshow: Should you add one of these incredible Corvettes to your garage?

By Brett Foote | 2026-04-01 18:14:05


VIEW MORE
story-7
Every Corvette Grand Sport Explained! (C2, C4, C6, C7, & C8)

Slideshow: Every Corvette Grand Sport explained

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-03-26 07:13:44


VIEW MORE
story-8
Grand Sport & Grand Sport X Launch Alongside All-New 535hp LS6 V8!

Slideshow: Breaking down the 2027 Grand Sport, Grand Sport X, Stingray, and LS6 V8.

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-03-26 13:48:45


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Reasons Bad Drivers Crash & 5 Ways to Avoid a Costly Mistake!

Slideshow: 5 reasons bad drivers crash sports cars & 5 ways to avoid a costly shame!

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-03-25 16:32:55


VIEW MORE