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Old Mar 4, 2006 | 09:22 AM
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This next tear down I am going to examaine the torque tube.

I am looking for input on the aluminum solid couplings as well as part numbers for the bearing replacements.

Any school of hard knocks advice would be great as well
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englandgreen has the aluminum couplers in his coupe(installed by ECS), car is daily driven; bearing replacement? i've seen something on this in the past, i lost the link
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Originally Posted by Dugmole
This next tear down I am going to examaine the torque tube.

I am looking for input on the aluminum solid couplings as well as part numbers for the bearing replacements.

Any school of hard knocks advice would be great as well
Hello, PM me with your e-mail address, I'll send you a .PDF that will help you out.

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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 10:36 AM
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I installed Lamar Walden couplings in my tube. You might consider the LWA couplings instead of the aluminum couplings. There are pros/cons of either set-up.

Hardest part of the job is removing/re-installing the snap ring. You need a big screw style snap ring tool to remove it and some patience and quick hands to re-install it. Other than that it goes pretty easy. I used a lot of heat to remove the bolts holding in the couplers, they are loctited from the factory. Be sure to use red loctite when re-installing them and torque to spec.
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guys pm several members on any info they have on replacing the bearings on the torque tube and anything i should do while i am in there. If anyone has any additioanl info please om me of post on this forum.

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Hardest part of the job is removing/re-installing the snap ring. You need a big screw style snap ring tool to remove it and some patience and quick hands to re-install it.
Can you suggest a particular tool? I'm not above buying a tool and adding it to my collection of Things Used Once but haven't run across one that looks right for the job yet. Quick hands does not sound good...
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ATI Performance Engineering makes billet aluminum driveshaft couplings (not yet on our website) that replace the weak rubber parts which can rip apart with serious torque.

We have heard some guys just bolt in solid couplings, but our experience has been that it is not that simple. While the couplings will technicaly just bolt in place, the factory driveshaft tolerances are poor (designed for rubber) and the assembly needs to be carefully balanced afterwards.

Solid couplings do cause some driveshaft noise when in neutral with the clutch out. No big deal for a race car. Can't hear it over the exhaust anyways....

For details and pricing please contact Rick Myers at ATI
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I'm running a LGM aluminum coupler on the rear, the install was straight fwd.
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What is the purpose of replacing the couplings? Are the stock couplings a potential reliability concern?

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What is the purpose of replacing the couplings? Are the stock couplings a potential reliability concern?

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In time the stock rubber couplers wear out....Higher HP speeds that process up. I was in there so I upgraded.
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Originally Posted by ATI Performance
ATI Performance Engineering makes billet aluminum driveshaft couplings (not yet on our website) that replace the weak rubber parts which can rip apart with serious torque.

We have heard some guys just bolt in solid couplings, but our experience has been that it is not that simple. While the couplings will technicaly just bolt in place, the factory driveshaft tolerances are poor (designed for rubber) and the assembly needs to be carefully balanced afterwards.

Solid couplings do cause some driveshaft noise when in neutral with the clutch out. No big deal for a race car. Can't hear it over the exhaust anyways....

For details and pricing please contact Rick Myers at ATI
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So you are saying that running two solid billet couplers on the shaft is OK?
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Originally Posted by mdhmi
What is the purpose of replacing the couplings? Are the stock couplings a potential reliability concern?

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Under race conditions with high torque, the rubber couplings can literally tear apart.
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Originally Posted by Cajundude
So you are saying that running two solid billet couplers on the shaft is OK?
Yes, it is OK if the whole assembly is properly balanced and runout corrected. We have been running this way for 3 years on our race car with no problems.

The noise is just an annoying rattling vibration only when in neutral with the clutch up. Most likely just gear lash in the transmission. I would dislike it in a daily driven street car, but who cares in a race car.
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Yes, it is OK if the whole assembly is properly balanced and runout corrected. We have been running this way for 3 years on our race car with no problems.

The noise is just an annoying rattling vibration only when in neutral with the clutch up. Most likely just gear lash in the transmission. I would dislike it in a daily driven street car, but who cares in a race car.
So this wouldn't be a issue in a auto unless I was in P or N, correct?
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So this wouldn't be a issue in a auto unless I was in P or N, correct?
You know, we never tried it on an automatic trans. I would guess that the constant load of the transmission pump might keep the noise from happening at all, even in P and N. But that is just a guess. I would certainly not expect it when in gear.
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So, can any driveshaft shop balance the whole assembly or is it something special with the C5 shaft. If the second, how much do you charge to balance?
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