A4 guys Torque Man. question.
Burning Brakes
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Waiting for my cam install/tune to have the TM adjusted. A lot of guys do not recommend removing it all together but rather changing the settings upwards. You probably want some measure of safety if it's your daily driver. Those I have talked to all say the difference is felt at launch and can help those lagging 60 foot times...
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St. Jude Donor '06-'07-'08-'09-'10-'11-'12
Traction control would be my safty net. I just want to know how much power the car is getting robbed from the TM.
Burning Brakes
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I didn't mean safety net as in not crashing I meant safety net as in not grenading rear output shaft, tranny, etc. You won't be launching with the Traction Control on anyway so that point is moot. Definitely have it adjusted, either raising the limits or removing it completely. Even bone stock it is holding you back.....
Burning Brakes
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The problem with what you're asking is this.....no one just turns off the Torque Management. Since they would have to be in your PCM file to turn it off, it usually means you are getting a tune. That means shift points and firmness are being adjusted, air/fuel optimized, and maybe 5 to 10 horses being "uncovered." Even the handhelds will get you 5 hp and adjust shifting/remove TM. So TM alone is hard to gauge. "Hanheld programmers on an A4" thread might get you a little more of the info you're looking for.
Only experience I've had with a handheld is the Diablo Predator on my friend's car....picked up 3 tenths in the quarter mostly due to shift point adjustment, no TM, and finally being able to launch it and get a decent 60' time. Doesn't do near as much for the manual cars.
Only experience I've had with a handheld is the Diablo Predator on my friend's car....picked up 3 tenths in the quarter mostly due to shift point adjustment, no TM, and finally being able to launch it and get a decent 60' time. Doesn't do near as much for the manual cars.
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From: Kerrville Texas
Originally Posted by screw991le
I am trying to figure out how far back it is holding the A4s
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Originally Posted by usd2sing
most tuning software like ls1 edit, hp tuners, pretty sure efi live will also work.
hand helds dont go deep enough in the files, to get you there.
several parameters cam be modified, abuse modes, etc.
hand helds dont go deep enough in the files, to get you there.
several parameters cam be modified, abuse modes, etc.
my Predator completely turned off TM.
Burning Brakes
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As stated in one of my previous posts in this thread, we picked up 3 tenths in the quarter after reprogramming an otherwise stock A4 with the Diablo Sport Predator largely due to the changes in shift points/firmness and removal of TM. He has had NO driveability issues with this car or mod. Hope this helps....
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St. Jude Donor '06-'07-'08-'09-'10-'11-'12
Thanks, I have been reading this for to long and only looked at the posts from just now.
Thanks
Thanks
Burning Brakes
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From: fort worth texas
Originally Posted by Mike Mercury
Source (and this time not yourself)???
my Predator completely turned off TM.
my Predator completely turned off TM.
when i was researching tuning options (here) i was told that the hand helds didnt have the functions to remove tm...
again sorry. i'll pull my posts for being a dunce...DOH!
Burning Brakes
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But remember, just because it does turn off TM doesn't mean it's the best way to go. For the price of a Predator ($349 to $399) you are almost at the price of a good custom dyno tune. No comparison! Research some good tuners in your area and go check them out. You'll be happy you did....
Burning Brakes
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Originally Posted by Bounty
But remember, just because it does turn off TM doesn't mean it's the best way to go. For the price of a Predator ($349 to $399) you are almost at the price of a good custom dyno tune. No comparison! Research some good tuners in your area and go check them out. You'll be happy you did....
399 for a lifetime tune. add a mod that requires a retune...its free..
