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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 07:17 PM
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Has anyone even used a LS4 oil pump? If so, what is your pressure?
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Never heard of a LS4 pump

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Never heard of a LS4 pump

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LS4 is of the Gen IV blocks with 5.3L(325ci) displacment.
Not sure if pumps are interchangable between the Gen III and Gen IV blocks.
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Originally Posted by dudleyd
LS4 is of the Gen IV blocks with 5.3L(325ci) displacment.
Not sure if pumps are interchangable between the Gen III and Gen IV blocks.
Yes there are suppose to be interchangable. I am just wondering what the difference is, if any than a LS6. OR how does the oil pressure compare.
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I would just stick with the LS6, I am certain that the only real difference is probably the title to go with the engine block, but the LS6 pumps flow really well.

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Originally Posted by mph1972
I would just stick with the LS6, I am certain that the only real difference is probably the title to go with the engine block, but the LS6 pumps flow really well.

Micah

I am wondering if the new LS4 is the new replacement for the LS6 pump? Or maybe it's the same pump, for less money. I'm going to find out before I order a pump though. With the LS4 being the latest motor design from GM, maybe it has some better features.
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Hi All,
From what I understand one of the features is it produces 30% more volume. All of the engine builders have swapped over to using only LS4 oil pumps. We have been selling these for 3 or 4 weeks now and will not re-order the LS2 pumps once our stock is depleted.

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Originally Posted by Gene@FredBeans
Hi All,
From what I understand one of the features is it produces 30% more volume. All of the engine builders have swapped over to using only LS4 oil pumps. We have been selling these for 3 or 4 weeks now and will not re-order the LS2 pumps once our stock is depleted.

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Good poop-for-the-troops. Thanks Gene.
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Originally Posted by Gene@FredBeans
Hi All,
From what I understand one of the features is it produces 30% more volume. All of the engine builders have swapped over to using only LS4 oil pumps. We have been selling these for 3 or 4 weeks now and will not re-order the LS2 pumps once our stock is depleted.

Thanks,
Gene

Whats 30% more? I'm more concerned with a pump not losing pressure in high heat track conditions on forged applications, such as the current LS1 Stock pump. Even when shimmed, teh LS1 Stock it doesnt hold pressure with the forged application in track condditions. I've seen it go down to the low teens.

If I'm going to spend the labor to install the pump, I need to make sure it will do the job
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I dont know what applications you guys are running but I track my car and the stock pump (with my foregd engine), which is also shimmed, just doesnt keep the pressure over a long track session.

Anyway, I called fred beans and they basically said its a "higher flowing pump" but no gurantees - with my issue anyway

What it ultimately comes down to sometimes is getting in touch with the engineers behind these things
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It may not be the pump that is making you lose your pressure! It could be your engine clearances. The more clearances you have, the more pressure you will lose.
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Originally Posted by RED99
It may not be the pump that is making you lose your pressure! It could be your engine clearances. The more clearances you have, the more pressure you will lose.
well, yes, you are partly correct. I have had this problem since the forged engine 2 years ago. And I have recently spoken with a couple of engineers on it who are familar with bearing clearances and their effects especially in track high heat conditons. They have stated that a higher volume pump will not lose pressure like the stock pump and I will have to go to one if I want to retain the prressure in track conditions. But it seems to be a combination of the clearances and the high heat track conditions which is causing my pressure loss as during normal driving, she is fine. BTW, I have a thread on it:


http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1387325
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E-mailed Gene....$62.00

Would like more info on who is using these.
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E-mailed Gene....$62.00

Would like more info on who is using these.
I have one but it's going to be another month or so before I fire the motor up. I got mine from Gene also, with a LS2 timing chain. It didn't come with a new O-ring though. So order one with the pump.
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