Run Flat problems
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Drifting
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From: Peoples Republik of Kalifornia Ka
Run Flat problems
I had my rear run flats dismounted from the rims yesterday(spares) and after returning home and unloading them from the truck I noticed that one of the rears had part of its bead broken off. I went back to the tire store and questioned this and was told I should hav brought it to their attentionbefore I left the store. Since it was a used tire they said they were not responsible for the damage. Now my question is do the GY run flats have a problem with this happening? Or was it the responsibilty of the tire guy / store to dismount them correctly? I want all my ducks in a row before I pursue this more. The tires only had 8000 miles on them.
Burning Brakes
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I'm not an expert, but have changed many tires, and the only way I've ever seen a tire broken from the bead of the rim is just to push on the tire until it separates from the rim. If part of the tire sticks to the rim and separates from the tire, I don't know of anything that could have been done to prevent it. Apparently there was something on the tire or rim, when the tire was mounted that caused them to stick together. I know this was no big help, but I just don't think there is anyone to blame.
Drifting
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Originally Posted by alanh
I'm not an expert, but have changed many tires, and the only way I've ever seen a tire broken from the bead of the rim is just to push on the tire until it separates from the rim. If part of the tire sticks to the rim and separates from the tire, I don't know of anything that could have been done to prevent it. Apparently there was something on the tire or rim, when the tire was mounted that caused them to stick together. I know this was no big help, but I just don't think there is anyone to blame.
What a bummer.
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Did the tire store have the proper equipment/training to dismount the run flat tires? Most of them do not. Other than some of the Chevy dealers in my area the only other place to get them mounted/dismounted is one Goodyear store. No other Goodyear stores or tire dealers have the machines. When I bought Firestone Run Flats from Tire Rack I actually had the Goodyear store mount them.
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I had a tear to the bead in my new GY GS-D3's on install...
I did not realize it until I started noticing it was losing about 1/2 psi per day.... I took it back to the installing dealer who found it while checking for the source of the slow leak... They replaced the tire on the spot
I did not realize it until I started noticing it was losing about 1/2 psi per day.... I took it back to the installing dealer who found it while checking for the source of the slow leak... They replaced the tire on the spot
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I agree that it could have happened when they were dismounting the tires. Had this happen on a '95 Vette. Shop tried to tell me they didn't do anything wrong - on basically brand new tires. They ended up paying for a tire after I told them I'd seem them in small claims court.
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That picture 87SAM posted looks like it was damaged by the mounting/demounting tool because the bead wasn't lubricated properly.
I have Firestones also and had them mounted at the Goodyear dealer because they had the right equipment. I watched their work and noticed they lubricated the runflat bead and wheel much more than I've ever seen a normal tire bead lubricated. They had a special bucket of something on the machine that looked white lard, really greased it up good to mount and dismount. It washed right off. If they took the tire off dry, it may damage the bead.
I have Firestones also and had them mounted at the Goodyear dealer because they had the right equipment. I watched their work and noticed they lubricated the runflat bead and wheel much more than I've ever seen a normal tire bead lubricated. They had a special bucket of something on the machine that looked white lard, really greased it up good to mount and dismount. It washed right off. If they took the tire off dry, it may damage the bead.
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Originally Posted by alanh
That picture 87SAM posted looks like it was damaged by the mounting/demounting tool because the bead wasn't lubricated properly.
I have Firestones also and had them mounted at the Goodyear dealer because they had the right equipment. I watched their work and noticed they lubricated the runflat bead and wheel much more than I've ever seen a normal tire bead lubricated. They had a special bucket of something on the machine that looked white lard, really greased it up good to mount and dismount. It washed right off. If they took the tire off dry, it may damage the bead.
I have Firestones also and had them mounted at the Goodyear dealer because they had the right equipment. I watched their work and noticed they lubricated the runflat bead and wheel much more than I've ever seen a normal tire bead lubricated. They had a special bucket of something on the machine that looked white lard, really greased it up good to mount and dismount. It washed right off. If they took the tire off dry, it may damage the bead.
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From: Peoples Republik of Kalifornia Ka
Originally Posted by DBRASUE
I had my rear run flats dismounted from the rims yesterday(spares) and after returning home and unloading them from the truck I noticed that one of the rears had part of its bead broken off. I went back to the tire store and questioned this and was told I should hav brought it to their attentionbefore I left the store. Since it was a used tire they said they were not responsible for the damage. Now my question is do the GY run flats have a problem with this happening? Or was it the responsibilty of the tire guy / store to dismount them correctly? I want all my ducks in a row before I pursue this more. The tires only had 8000 miles on them.
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Originally Posted by DBRASUE
Well I went back to the "tire place" last night and confronted them with this. After I showed them the tire and the picture that a fellow forum member posted on this thread, they gladly replaced the tire with a new one! Many thanks to all who responded to this thread and the advise. Greatly appreciated.
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Originally Posted by DBRASUE
Well I went back to the "tire place" last night and confronted them with this. After I showed them the tire and the picture that a fellow forum member posted on this thread, they gladly replaced the tire with a new one! Many thanks to all who responded to this thread and the advise. Greatly appreciated.
