Turbo VS Supercharger
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Melting Slicks
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Turbo VS Supercharger
Hey guys!!! I'm now a sales person at Guildford Volkswagen and my pay has gone up...which means TIME FOR MORE MODS 
....so whats the better route to take....a turbo setup or a supercharger...my engine has been redone by GM due to the oil consumption thing and it is running flawlessly now...changed the spark plugs and one of the wires...that was the problem from my last post here (cylinder misfire)...changed the airfilter to another stock one and it has actually made the car run smoother...AIR FILTER WAS REALLY REALLY DIRTY :o ....anyways back to the topic...TURBO OR SUPERCHARGER?? I don't want to really get forged internals just because that looks like it'd be too much work then...I want to get the most horsepower out of my stock engine...what would work best??? NOS IS NOT AN OPTION!!! Who is a good vendor for either one of these and around how much would it be??? Any help would be appreciated..
Thanks guys
....so whats the better route to take....a turbo setup or a supercharger...my engine has been redone by GM due to the oil consumption thing and it is running flawlessly now...changed the spark plugs and one of the wires...that was the problem from my last post here (cylinder misfire)...changed the airfilter to another stock one and it has actually made the car run smoother...AIR FILTER WAS REALLY REALLY DIRTY :o ....anyways back to the topic...TURBO OR SUPERCHARGER?? I don't want to really get forged internals just because that looks like it'd be too much work then...I want to get the most horsepower out of my stock engine...what would work best??? NOS IS NOT AN OPTION!!! Who is a good vendor for either one of these and around how much would it be??? Any help would be appreciated..Thanks guys
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I would call Andy at A&A or Chris/Doug and ECS and get one of there blower kits, I have no issues with my A&A setup. Both of there setups are complete kits and they put out anywhere between 500-550 rwhp
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Originally Posted by mdhmi
I've had both. If you have the loot I'd go with twin turbos.
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I have a P1SC from A&A and the car runs very well! However believe you'll always want more.
I also said that 550 HP at the crank is crazy power and that it will be enough, believe me, you'll get used to it! I regret not going with a D1SC head unit from the start (more room to increase power down the road).
I will be going with a forged block down the road (346 or 408, but I have time to take my decision) and will also certainly sell my SC kit and go with a Turbo kit (FFHP since they are affordable and a single turbo is enough for my goal, which will be around 750 RWHP).
So If I had to do it again, I would have gone the turbo route (twin turbo or single, whatever was available). No oil change, no belt issues, more power through the curve, more room for power increase!
That's coming from a SC guy who starts to regret his choice
I also said that 550 HP at the crank is crazy power and that it will be enough, believe me, you'll get used to it! I regret not going with a D1SC head unit from the start (more room to increase power down the road).
I will be going with a forged block down the road (346 or 408, but I have time to take my decision) and will also certainly sell my SC kit and go with a Turbo kit (FFHP since they are affordable and a single turbo is enough for my goal, which will be around 750 RWHP).
So If I had to do it again, I would have gone the turbo route (twin turbo or single, whatever was available). No oil change, no belt issues, more power through the curve, more room for power increase!
That's coming from a SC guy who starts to regret his choice
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Originally Posted by gdphillipsvette
Just wondering why
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Melting Slicks
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Originally Posted by torchvette10
(FFHP since they are affordable and a single turbo is enough for my goal, which will be around 750 RWHP).
single turbo gets you around the 750 RWHP MARK
now thats the kinda power im talking about!!!!!!! how much for a setup like that and where can i get it from???
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St. Jude Donor '07-'08
Originally Posted by mdhmi
Turbos are quieter and faster pound for pound. Much more power under the curve which translates into much more fun on the street. Plus you don't have to contend with all the belt nonsense with turbos. You can get a complete TT setup for much less than $15K.
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Nothing like a TT setup. I have a TTi Stage 1 and am very happy with it. If you want more power the TTi X twin turbo setup is excellent also. Check in the F/I forum someone posted one for sale for $7500.00 http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1411223
Last edited by PUREFUN; Jun 6, 2006 at 02:47 AM.
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St. Jude Donor '07-'08
Originally Posted by BickyDhadwal
single turbo gets you around the 750 RWHP MARK now thats the kinda power im talking about!!!!!!! how much for a setup like that and where can i get it from???
now thats the kinda power im talking about!!!!!!! how much for a setup like that and where can i get it from???
If you want to stay stock you probably should stay in the 500 rwhp range.
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Originally Posted by PUREFUN
For that kind of power i think you won't be able to stay with that stock engine for long. Plus you have to factor in breakage If you want to stay stock you probably should stay in the 500 rwhp range.
If you want to stay stock you probably should stay in the 500 rwhp range. At least I hope he don't plan to do so. forged is the only way to go(346 or 408), the stock bottom end wouldn't resist
FFHP offers two turbo kits, one for stock cubes with a smaller turbo (good to 900 RWHP on a 346 with proper fuel system and so on) and a bigger turbo (they call it the race kit) for bigger motors like 408s. Therace kit made 702 RWHP on a 408 at 10 PSI (1000 RWHP is easily possible on a 408)
Here is their site:
www.forcefedhighperformance.com
or go visit the forced induction section of the forum, they are running a sale right now (small turbo kit for $5100 and the race kit for $7100). No reason to go SC at those prices
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Originally Posted by torchvette10
Who said he wanna stay stock??? At least I hope he don't plan to do so. forged is the only way to go(346 or 408), the stock bottom end wouldn't resist
FFHP offers two turbo kits, one for stock cubes with a smaller turbo (good to 900 RWHP on a 346 with proper fuel system and so on) and a bigger turbo (they call it the race kit) for bigger motors like 408s. Therace kit made 702 RWHP on a 408 at 10 PSI (1000 RWHP is easily possible on a 408)
Here is their site:
www.forcefedhighperformance.com
or go visit the forced induction section of the forum, they are running a sale right now (small turbo kit for $5100 and the race kit for $7100). No reason to go SC at those prices
At least I hope he don't plan to do so. forged is the only way to go(346 or 408), the stock bottom end wouldn't resist FFHP offers two turbo kits, one for stock cubes with a smaller turbo (good to 900 RWHP on a 346 with proper fuel system and so on) and a bigger turbo (they call it the race kit) for bigger motors like 408s. Therace kit made 702 RWHP on a 408 at 10 PSI (1000 RWHP is easily possible on a 408)
Here is their site:
www.forcefedhighperformance.com
or go visit the forced induction section of the forum, they are running a sale right now (small turbo kit for $5100 and the race kit for $7100). No reason to go SC at those prices
New prices.........
It looks like a pretty nice kit and from the looks of Fast Cash's car, it'll run too!
The TTi X that's in the for sale section is a good deal too.
From what I see around here, if you got a BIG raise and the dough is burning a hole in your pocket, turbo is the way to go, but the price of admission is higher.
The ECS or A&A systems are proven to work and will put out some SERIOUS power too, and are quite a bit cheaper. They both come with Everything that you'd need to supercharge your car for $5500-$6500. That's not too bad for 500+ rwhp easily without it breaking a sweat.
Either one will make more than enough power to put a rod through your block (if not forged).
The new Kenne Bell is out too, and will make more low end torque than anything out there (besides nitrous), but requires a new hood that's included in the kit. It's still in the unproven stages, but it looks promising.
Best of Luck with your choice and that's a mighty nice looking pair of cars you've got there!
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I think that Mark will agree with me on this one. A SC kit just seems cheaper than Turbo but that's not true. You need to add the price of some Long tube headers with the SC which increase the cost:
FFHP Race kit complete: $7400 normal price (7100 on sale)
Supercharger from A&A (Vortech head unit): $5500 + $1500 for headers = $7000 (A bit more for the Paxton kit from ECS)
For pretty much the same price you a Turbo (no belt issues, more power, no balancer issues, no oil filling )
I however agree with you that the SC will still make some crazy power. I only have a P1SC (9 PSI) and I think that it's really a lot for a street car (but I'am addicted to power and still want more , I don't even know if its gonnabe useable on the street
)
FFHP Race kit complete: $7400 normal price (7100 on sale)
Supercharger from A&A (Vortech head unit): $5500 + $1500 for headers = $7000 (A bit more for the Paxton kit from ECS)
For pretty much the same price you a Turbo (no belt issues, more power, no balancer issues, no oil filling
)I however agree with you that the SC will still make some crazy power. I only have a P1SC (9 PSI) and I think that it's really a lot for a street car (but I'am addicted to power and still want more
, I don't even know if its gonnabe useable on the street )
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Originally Posted by PUREFUN
Nothing like a TT setup. I have a TTi Stage 1 and am very happy with it. If you want more power the TTi X twin turbo setup is excellent also. Check in the F/I forum someone posted one for sale for $7500.00 http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1411223What were your final dyno numbers? I can't say that I ever remember you posting them.
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Originally Posted by torchvette10
Who said he wanna stay stock??? At least I hope he don't plan to do so. forged is the only way to go(346 or 408), the stock bottom end wouldn't resist
FFHP offers two turbo kits, one for stock cubes with a smaller turbo (good to 900 RWHP on a 346 with proper fuel system and so on) and a bigger turbo (they call it the race kit) for bigger motors like 408s. Therace kit made 702 RWHP on a 408 at 10 PSI (1000 RWHP is easily possible on a 408)
Here is their site:
www.forcefedhighperformance.com
or go visit the forced induction section of the forum, they are running a sale right now (small turbo kit for $5100 and the race kit for $7100). No reason to go SC at those prices
At least I hope he don't plan to do so. forged is the only way to go(346 or 408), the stock bottom end wouldn't resist FFHP offers two turbo kits, one for stock cubes with a smaller turbo (good to 900 RWHP on a 346 with proper fuel system and so on) and a bigger turbo (they call it the race kit) for bigger motors like 408s. Therace kit made 702 RWHP on a 408 at 10 PSI (1000 RWHP is easily possible on a 408)
Here is their site:
www.forcefedhighperformance.com
or go visit the forced induction section of the forum, they are running a sale right now (small turbo kit for $5100 and the race kit for $7100). No reason to go SC at those prices