TORQUE CONVERTERS____A good Choice ?
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I know when I changed gears on my other car it really woke it up, and provided a lot more punch when even just tapping the pedal. Will say a 3200 TC do this, or is it gonna only increase the performance in the higher RPM range?
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Originally Posted by BGDDYKWL
I know when I changed gears on my other car it really woke it up, and provided a lot more punch when even just tapping the pedal. Will say a 3200 TC do this, or is it gonna only increase the performance in the higher RPM range?
I've heard from some ppl that a higher stall TC will make the car feel "loose". I still don't understand this term. My bad. 
Does that mean the car will slide all over the place, (kinda out of control feeling), or just "slugish" in lower RPMs. Since I'm not so familiar with TCs, I'm thinking how about I just change the 2.73 gears to the 3.42. But then, a lot of ppl tell me I should chang the TC too.. Can anyone explain the term "loose" to me, and what affects a high stall Tc will have on Low RPMs & Hi RPMs..
Thanks guys...
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The term loose, refers to needing to step on the gas pedal more before the car will roll. Todays t/c's are much more effecient than even just a few years ago. With the 3200 stall you might notice that you need more throttle to get the car rolling, of course you might not. When I installed the 3200 I could not tell a difference between stock. When I installed my current 3600 I could tell the difference. 
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Originally Posted by 16Again
The term loose, refers to needing to step on the gas pedal more before the car will roll. Todays t/c's are much more effecient than even just a few years ago. With the 3200 stall you might notice that you need more throttle to get the car rolling, of course you might not. When I installed the 3200 I could not tell a difference between stock. When I installed my current 3600 I could tell the difference.
That helps. Now, can someone Plzzz tell me if I change -
#1. 2.73 gears changed to 3.42 what to expect. (Stock TC)
#2. Change to 3.42 + 3200 TC, then what to expect.
I guess, I'm trying to figure out the difference in the two set ups
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One thing you need to be aware of is that with street tires and a stall converter. You will destroy the tires any time you try to launch hard!
Drag radials or slicks will be required to get the full benefits of the stall. That is what I have been told many times thru research. I plan on doing a 3.42 gear and a Yank SS3200 stall. I called Yank and told them I wanted the car to fell tight enough so my mom could drive it and that is what they suggested. It should be good for about 6 tenths or better improvement in the 1/4 mile.
Drag radials or slicks will be required to get the full benefits of the stall. That is what I have been told many times thru research. I plan on doing a 3.42 gear and a Yank SS3200 stall. I called Yank and told them I wanted the car to fell tight enough so my mom could drive it and that is what they suggested. It should be good for about 6 tenths or better improvement in the 1/4 mile.
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My understanding, and please correct me if I'm wrong, is that going to a 3200 TC will definitely affect the car differently than going from say 2.73 to 3.73 gears. The gear change will make the car feel a lot faster at every point in time. Immediately off the line in the 1,500 rpm range, to passing on the freeway going 75mph. With the TC, the car will actually feel slower when moderately accelerating from a stop, assuming you're in the 1,000-2,500 rpm range, but will greatly improve performance when you really get on it. If you're primarily using the car for daily driving, and are typically below 3,000-4,000 rpm, the gears will make a whole lot more of a difference than the TC.
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Originally Posted by debmwb
But...you will need more than that to hang with a 2004 SC/Cobra (especially if it's modified).
Just the 3.42's (no converter) is a great improvement!
3.42's get that feeling first it will be a fun car...keep in mind there will always someone else badder..so if you looking to kick butt..supercharge it and call it a day...
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Originally Posted by BGDDYKWL
My understanding, and please correct me if I'm wrong, is that going to a 3200 TC will definitely affect the car differently than going from say 2.73 to 3.73 gears. The gear change will make the car feel a lot faster at every point in time. Immediately off the line in the 1,500 rpm range, to passing on the freeway going 75mph. With the TC, the car will actually feel slower when moderately accelerating from a stop, assuming you're in the 1,000-2,500 rpm range, but will greatly improve performance when you really get on it. If you're primarily using the car for daily driving, and are typically below 3,000-4,000 rpm, the gears will make a whole lot more of a difference than the TC.
well said my $.02 is 3:42's are best for the A4 as a daily driver. Gas mileage won't be effected as much either.
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Originally Posted by BGDDYKWL
My understanding, and please correct me if I'm wrong, is that going to a 3200 TC will definitely affect the car differently than going from say 2.73 to 3.73 gears. The gear change will make the car feel a lot faster at every point in time. Immediately off the line in the 1,500 rpm range, to passing on the freeway going 75mph. With the TC, the car will actually feel slower when moderately accelerating from a stop, assuming you're in the 1,000-2,500 rpm range, but will greatly improve performance when you really get on it. If you're primarily using the car for daily driving, and are typically below 3,000-4,000 rpm, the gears will make a whole lot more of a difference than the TC.
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Originally Posted by BGDDYKWL
My understanding, and please correct me if I'm wrong, is that going to a 3200 TC will definitely affect the car differently than going from say 2.73 to 3.73 gears. The gear change will make the car feel a lot faster at every point in time. Immediately off the line in the 1,500 rpm range, to passing on the freeway going 75mph. With the TC, the car will actually feel slower when moderately accelerating from a stop, assuming you're in the 1,000-2,500 rpm range, but will greatly improve performance when you really get on it. If you're primarily using the car for daily driving, and are typically below 3,000-4,000 rpm, the gears will make a whole lot more of a difference than the TC.
Plz keep the comments coming. They're very helpful... Thanks..
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Originally Posted by Vette_Fan
This the the theory thats holding me back, or confusing me still. I don't wanna have SLOW / dead spots in Low RPMs. While I'm making a right hand turn on a light I don't wanna be in 2500-3500 RPM range. On the road, I wanna be able to drive the car like any normal car with auto, and still have power and torque. Thats why I'm switching to 3.42, so it will give me an all-the-time power/torque. But I wanna be able to launch hard too from a light, if I wanted to... for that I'd like a TC that fits into my driving style.
Plz keep the comments coming. They're very helpful... Thanks..
Plz keep the comments coming. They're very helpful... Thanks..
You will not be at 3200 rpms before the car rolls, 3200 will be your power band, at 3200 you get it all. Now stock at 700 rpms your car rolls just fine, the new converter will now require 750 rpms to get the car rolling, you will not even notice the difference. New converters are much different than converters of just 2-3 years ago. You will notice very little difference from stock unless you move to a very big converter.
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Originally Posted by 16Again
Don't let the theory hold you back, it's flawed. You will not be at 3200 rpms before the car rolls, 3200 will be your power band, at 3200 you get it all. Now stock at 700 rpms your car rolls just fine, the new converter will now require 750 rpms to get the car rolling, you will not even notice the difference. New converters are much different than converters of just 2-3 years ago. You will notice very little difference from stock unless you move to a very big converter.
You will not be at 3200 rpms before the car rolls, 3200 will be your power band, at 3200 you get it all. Now stock at 700 rpms your car rolls just fine, the new converter will now require 750 rpms to get the car rolling, you will not even notice the difference. New converters are much different than converters of just 2-3 years ago. You will notice very little difference from stock unless you move to a very big converter. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Vette_Fan
That's kinda what I'm talking about and looking for my car to do. But say, Im driving in a 30-40 miles/hr Zone, or residential area 25-30 mph, will I need to push the gas paddle FAR to get the same drivibility that I had with stock?
Thanks!
Thanks!
