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Old Jul 29, 2006 | 05:48 PM
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I'm suspecting that maybe ethanol is the cause, but the outlet fitting on my 1997 C5 is leaking, and might need the replacement of the fuel line. I hope not, because even with the car on a lift, the line disappears somewhere in the driveshaft tunnel. On top of that, it appears that I might have to remove most of the exhaust system just to try and get to the fitting.
Anyone else had this problem?
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Old Jul 29, 2006 | 06:06 PM
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I'm not real familiar with the 97 fuel system, but most of the fuel fittings use "O" rings. Easily replaced.
I doubt ethanol is the cause. We've had it in our gas in Michigan for years, and fuel systems are designed around it.
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Old Jul 29, 2006 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Warp Factor
I'm not real familiar with the 97 fuel system, but most of the fuel fittings use "O" rings. Easily replaced.
If there are O rings in there, that would be great. The problem I'm having now is trying to get the quick connects to open. The tool that I use for Ford, doesn't seem to do it.
I read in a previous post that it can be done with a screwdriver, but there's no room to get in there.
Anybody know what the proper tool is, and where it can be obtained?
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Old Jul 29, 2006 | 07:20 PM
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Which type of fitting is it? The one with the external plastic clips, or one where you can't see any clips?
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Old Jul 29, 2006 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Warp Factor
Which type of fitting is it? The one with the external plastic clips, or one where you can't see any clips?
External plastic clips
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Old Jul 29, 2006 | 07:58 PM
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Can you get two hands in there?
If you can, just squeeze the outermost parts of the clip in with one hand, and pull the "boot" off with the other hand. The plastic clip will stay on the metal part, and not pull off with the boot.
Could also be done with needle nose pliers......
There's a tool shown in the manual, but I haven't found an auto parts store that has it.
You know you should release the fuel pressure first, right?

Could also use a rag wrapped around the joint to catch the spray, but it makes it really hard to see what you're doing.
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Old Jul 29, 2006 | 08:11 PM
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Thanks WF
I probably can get one hand in there with the needlenose pliers, and the other hand to pull the filter free, since I've dropped the muffler pipe.
Will I find an O ring in there?
Releasing pressure is no problem since the fitting is leaking so bad!!
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Old Jul 29, 2006 | 08:33 PM
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O ring is in the "boot" part that you pull off.
Haven't ever purchased one myself. Chevy dealer? Anyone know?
Male part of filter should be lubed with oil before sliding coupling back on to avoid messing up new O ring.
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Old Jul 29, 2006 | 08:48 PM
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If it's just an O ring, that'll be great.
Going to a car show tomorrow, so will get back on it in a few days.
With a 100,000 miles on the car,(and the filter) I don't mind giving it a few days rest.
Will let you know how we make out.
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Old Jul 29, 2006 | 10:25 PM
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Just had this problem. As far as getting the filter off, you can use the tool if you have the patience, or reach up there and squeeze the clips. A little patience here does wonders.

I'm assuming by the lack of room, that you have an automatic? Changing the filter on a manual is much easier from what I've read.

Definitely lube the male end with clean oil, just dip your finger in and wipe the sealing surface. Take a look inside the outlet end of the filter, you should see o-rings inside. Make sure they are there. Other than that, should be pretty simple. Don't add any extra o-rings, and make sure to tug (gently) on the filter once you have it installed to make sure the clips are fully seated. Press up the system by turning the key on (without starting the car) to check for leaks before lowering the car.

You would think I'd have more advice since I've just done this, but I really don't. Hope this helps, keep us posted.

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I have one thing to add...the leaky fuel filter is VERY common on 97 and 98 vettes. I just had this problem about 3 months ago. When i removed the forward most line, there was a oring "glued" to the line itself. I thought maybe i had to reuse it, so i checked the service manual, and it mentioned nothing about it, so i removed the oring. Then when i tipped the filter on its side to get extra gas out, two plastic rings fell out. Its a miracle the thing wasnt pouring fuel out. After seeing both the plastic rings and oring...i checked inside the new filter and sure enough, they were all inside the new filter (as they should be) and they were all solid inside there, not rattling around...i guess what i am trying to say here is that everything should be internal to the filter itself. No extra orings should be on the lines themselves....

Since "scatterbrained" just did this yesterday, he'll correct me if im wrong...

Make sure you do NOT resuse any orings or plastic rings. Make sure the lines are clean, and the quick connects are snapped in properly. The quick connect fitting are a bit of a pain but other than that it is easy.

Good Luck!

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Originally Posted by Stealthy4
...i guess what i am trying to say here is that everything should be internal to the filter itself. No extra orings should be on the lines themselves....
Except for the "female" fittings with the external plastic clips. They contain an O ring which isn't integral to the filter.
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Originally Posted by Warp Factor
Except for the "female" fittings with the external plastic clips. They contain an O ring which isn't integral to the filter.
agreed.
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Old Jul 30, 2006 | 07:08 PM
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Thanks Guys...Great advise
Yes, it is an automatic.
Just looked inside the new filter (CarQuest), and it appears that there is at least one tiny O ring, and maybe another one in front of that one which is a different color than the front one.
I'm assuming that there is an O ring on the inlet fitting, and since it's not leaking, I'm hoping it's OK. Not sure if it's even possible to look in it without a mirror once the filter is removed, because of the angle.
Will get back to it tomorrow. Too hot and humid here in MA to fool with it tonight.
BTW, at the car show I was at today in Fairhaven MA, many, many Corvettes, with C5s being the most popular. I still prefer the appearance of the C5 over the C6!!
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Old Aug 1, 2006 | 10:57 AM
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Success!! Fuel filter is changed, and not leaking.
Many thanks to helpers on the forum.
Actually, if this filter was in a place that can be accessed easily, this topic would not even be on the forum. But in the case of a 1997 Automatic, there are a few problems. Fortunately, I have a lift, so that makes it a little easier, but you really need hands and arms of a size found on a 3 year old. Trying to get some light, hands, tools, and get your eyes (glasses) focused is a challenge.
First, you have to drop the left muffler. Lots of Blaster on the bolts ahead of time will help. Have a new flange gasket ready.
Removed the inlet fitting first. Used a small pair of needle nose vise grips to squeeze the retainers. Then a couple of screw driver on either side to push the filter free. This is the easy one.
Found the only way I could squeeze the retainer on the outlet was with a small tie wrap pulled tight over the retainer's ears with help of a pair of needle nose pliers to pull it tight. It helps to first pre-bend the tie wrap into a half loop. You'll be inserting the end of the tie wrap into the slot with one hand (think dexterity of a brain surgeon), without being able to see what you're doing. Then a good tug on the old filter should remove it. Tie wrap could be used for the inlet too, but didn't think of it at the time.
Assembly is easy, and as stated earlier, a little vaseline on the tubes will help. Do the outlet first and push until you hear a click. Same with the inlet. By lowering the muffler, you can get your arm over the pipe, then your hand on the filter to push or pull it.
When I examined the old filter, it appears that the two O rings are intact, but seemed swelled, as compared to the new one. A retaining ring was loose, but that could have happened during removal.
Thanks again all. Car should be good now for another 100,000 miles!!!

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Congrats! I had to replace my fuel filter 2 weeks ago because it was leaking a ton.
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I have a '99 Coupe and after filling the tank the other day I noticed a slight gas smell when I entered the garage the next day. Didn't give it too much thought. Next day when I entered the garage I could smell gas again, now I started to wonder.

Anyway, I seem to have a leak on the passenger side by the fuel tank area as I have noticed a spot on my garage floor.

When it is a bad fuel filter, I assume you notice the leak on the drivers side of the car.

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Originally Posted by 6x6man
I have a '99 Coupe and after filling the tank the other day I noticed a slight gas smell when I entered the garage the next day. Didn't give it too much thought. Next day when I entered the garage I could smell gas again, now I started to wonder.

Anyway, I seem to have a leak on the passenger side by the fuel tank area as I have noticed a spot on my garage floor.

When it is a bad fuel filter, I assume you notice the leak on the drivers side of the car.

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Yes the fuel filter is on the driver side. However, the C5 features a saddle style tank (10 gallons on one side 10 on the other) The passenger side tank has a fuel pump that pumps fuel over to the driver side where it then proceeds to the front of the car. You might have a leak from the passenger side pump...

Also, they might have changed the filter design in 99...anyway, i think the 99 system is very similar to the 97 if not the same...

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