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Pull key wait 10 seconds only
I have tried to read all info & only one made reference to my particular issue so here goes:
My car (2001 6 speed) has been to the dealer at least three times for the column lock issue. Just last week it had the harness installed, lock plate removed & all the latest programming installed.
I am still getting the message "remove key & wait ten seconds" nothing else but that & it is limiting the fuel if I try to drive. It usually happens when it is cold first time started for the day but did happen last weekend while out of town after a 25 mile cruise but it did rain earlier that day while driving.
I saw a post about potential key or security issue so I took a different key with me & changed keys & then it did it while hot & again yesterday when I pulled out of garage to wash it.
My dealer is inquiring of GM on this issue & willing to fix but not sure what to do, any ideas?
I saw a message on faulty K harness installed??
Any help would be appreciated as it hasn't stopped me just delayed my departure each time as when pull key then reinsert it is fine until the next time.
I forgot to mention car still has GMPP major guard for 3 more years so don't want to effect that if I don't have to.
My car (2001 6 speed) has been to the dealer at least three times for the column lock issue. Just last week it had the harness installed, lock plate removed & all the latest programming installed.
I am still getting the message "remove key & wait ten seconds" nothing else but that & it is limiting the fuel if I try to drive. It usually happens when it is cold first time started for the day but did happen last weekend while out of town after a 25 mile cruise but it did rain earlier that day while driving.
I saw a post about potential key or security issue so I took a different key with me & changed keys & then it did it while hot & again yesterday when I pulled out of garage to wash it.
My dealer is inquiring of GM on this issue & willing to fix but not sure what to do, any ideas?
I saw a message on faulty K harness installed??
Any help would be appreciated as it hasn't stopped me just delayed my departure each time as when pull key then reinsert it is fine until the next time.
I forgot to mention car still has GMPP major guard for 3 more years so don't want to effect that if I don't have to.
Last edited by Donn Malwick; Jul 31, 2006 at 07:02 PM.
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Your problem is probably a faulty K harness. Major problem plaguing GM. It happenrd to me. I'd remove the K harness and install the Column Lock Bypass from Corvettes of Houston and be done with messing with this column issue.
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Originally Posted by Tact
Your problem is probably a faulty K harness. Major problem plaguing GM. It happenrd to me. I'd remove the K harness and install the Column Lock Bypass from Corvettes of Houston and be done with messing with this column issue.
If your dealer talks to GM tech people they will likely tell him this. That's what they told the tech at my dealer...........
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I installed a CLB in my 2003 AE MN6 the week I got it and pretty much forgot about the problem for three years or so. Recently wife drove the car while I was out of town, battery went dead. Her dad jumped it and took it to a dealer that they chose because it was close. Corvette Moron dealer did nothing for DBS, but did an "oh by the way" 04600 recall (which I had consistently refused), putting in a harness, removing the locking plate, and who knows, maybe did the reprogram, maybe not. Stole my CLB. Well, in fairness, one or more of the four recalls (04600, 04600A, 04600B, and 04600C) does instruct that if a CLB is installed, to remove it. But the bum kept it, or threw it away, not knowing what it was. Needless to say, I was pi$$ed!!! But whatcha gonna do, yell at the wife or father in law? (He's a really good guy, but just not a Corvette guy)
Anyway, "Pull Key, Wait 10 seconds" started up intermittently a couple weeks later. Took it to a local Corvette tech that I trust. All he did was pull the harness out, and ask me if he could have it - said GM might want it back. Left the rest the way it was. He told me that the harnesses with the white relay in them are bad, and that the company who had made them had gone bankrupt. Said different harnesses with black relay boxes - from one of the later recalls - seemed to work OK in his experience.
Now the column lock whirrs each time I switch on or off, but nothing happens - no locking plate in the column for it to engage. Wheel still turns when ignition is off. But if the a$$h@!e who stole my column lock bypass had returned it as a "used part," I could put it back in and get rid of the locking pin noise.
Now I've got to decide whether to pony up another 50 bucks for another CLB, or live with the whirring. Tech advised to just live with it. (after we joked about what to do with the thief) That was two weeks ago, and nothing bad has happened since.
Live and learn. There about a million different column lock stories here; I've been reluctant to add mine and seem to muddy the waters. Suggest you read the excellent FAQ in the C5 tech forum:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1015483
Best of luck - once this crap starts, you'll need it. Dealing with it is like going to four doctors and being told you have three different diseases - it's trouble knowing who to believe.
Anyway, "Pull Key, Wait 10 seconds" started up intermittently a couple weeks later. Took it to a local Corvette tech that I trust. All he did was pull the harness out, and ask me if he could have it - said GM might want it back. Left the rest the way it was. He told me that the harnesses with the white relay in them are bad, and that the company who had made them had gone bankrupt. Said different harnesses with black relay boxes - from one of the later recalls - seemed to work OK in his experience.
Now the column lock whirrs each time I switch on or off, but nothing happens - no locking plate in the column for it to engage. Wheel still turns when ignition is off. But if the a$$h@!e who stole my column lock bypass had returned it as a "used part," I could put it back in and get rid of the locking pin noise.
Now I've got to decide whether to pony up another 50 bucks for another CLB, or live with the whirring. Tech advised to just live with it. (after we joked about what to do with the thief) That was two weeks ago, and nothing bad has happened since.
Live and learn. There about a million different column lock stories here; I've been reluctant to add mine and seem to muddy the waters. Suggest you read the excellent FAQ in the C5 tech forum:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1015483
Best of luck - once this crap starts, you'll need it. Dealing with it is like going to four doctors and being told you have three different diseases - it's trouble knowing who to believe.
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Originally Posted by Paul Jakubowski
I installed a CLB in my 2003 AE MN6 the week I got it and pretty much forgot about the problem for three years or so. Recently wife drove the car while I was out of town, battery went dead. Her dad jumped it and took it to a dealer that they chose because it was close. Corvette Moron dealer did nothing for DBS, but did an "oh by the way" 04600 recall (which I had consistently refused), putting in a harness, removing the locking plate, and who knows, maybe did the reprogram, maybe not. Stole my CLB. Well, in fairness, one or more of the four recalls (04600, 04600A, 04600B, and 04600C) does instruct that if a CLB is installed, to remove it. But the bum kept it, or threw it away, not knowing what it was. Needless to say, I was pi$$ed!!! But whatcha gonna do, yell at the wife or father in law? (He's a really good guy, but just not a Corvette guy)
Anyway, "Pull Key, Wait 10 seconds" started up intermittently a couple weeks later. Took it to a local Corvette tech that I trust. All he did was pull the harness out, and ask me if he could have it - said GM might want it back. Left the rest the way it was. He told me that the harnesses with the white relay in them are bad, and that the company who had made them had gone bankrupt. Said different harnesses with black relay boxes - from one of the later recalls - seemed to work OK in his experience.
Now the column lock whirrs each time I switch on or off, but nothing happens - no locking plate in the column for it to engage. Wheel still turns when ignition is off. But if the a$$h@!e who stole my column lock bypass had returned it as a "used part," I could put it back in and get rid of the locking pin noise.
Now I've got to decide whether to pony up another 50 bucks for another CLB, or live with the whirring. Tech advised to just live with it. (after we joked about what to do with the thief) That was two weeks ago, and nothing bad has happened since.
Live and learn. There about a million different column lock stories here; I've been reluctant to add mine and seem to muddy the waters. Suggest you read the excellent FAQ in the C5 tech forum:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1015483
Best of luck - once this crap starts, you'll need it. Dealing with it is like going to four doctors and being told you have three different diseases - it's trouble knowing who to believe.
Anyway, "Pull Key, Wait 10 seconds" started up intermittently a couple weeks later. Took it to a local Corvette tech that I trust. All he did was pull the harness out, and ask me if he could have it - said GM might want it back. Left the rest the way it was. He told me that the harnesses with the white relay in them are bad, and that the company who had made them had gone bankrupt. Said different harnesses with black relay boxes - from one of the later recalls - seemed to work OK in his experience.
Now the column lock whirrs each time I switch on or off, but nothing happens - no locking plate in the column for it to engage. Wheel still turns when ignition is off. But if the a$$h@!e who stole my column lock bypass had returned it as a "used part," I could put it back in and get rid of the locking pin noise.
Now I've got to decide whether to pony up another 50 bucks for another CLB, or live with the whirring. Tech advised to just live with it. (after we joked about what to do with the thief) That was two weeks ago, and nothing bad has happened since.
Live and learn. There about a million different column lock stories here; I've been reluctant to add mine and seem to muddy the waters. Suggest you read the excellent FAQ in the C5 tech forum:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1015483
Best of luck - once this crap starts, you'll need it. Dealing with it is like going to four doctors and being told you have three different diseases - it's trouble knowing who to believe.
Either way I would still get a replacement CLB because even though the locking plate is removed and the wheel can't physically lock, the CL can report an incorrect state to the BCM and result in fuel cutoff.
Go to the stealer and get your CLB or money for it back.
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Paul,
I just told the forum about my experience and your particular car on some other thread on this forum......sorry just crossed over for a few minutes from autocross/roadrace. Now back to your regularly scheduled program.
ps. I have the hugest pile of the junk relay harnesses that you would ever believe
I just told the forum about my experience and your particular car on some other thread on this forum......sorry just crossed over for a few minutes from autocross/roadrace. Now back to your regularly scheduled program.
ps. I have the hugest pile of the junk relay harnesses that you would ever believe
Drifting
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Originally Posted by RAFTRACER
Paul,
I just told the forum about my experience and your particular car on some other thread on this forum......sorry just crossed over for a few minutes from autocross/roadrace. Now back to your regularly scheduled program.
ps. I have the hugest pile of the junk relay harnesses that you would ever believe
I just told the forum about my experience and your particular car on some other thread on this forum......sorry just crossed over for a few minutes from autocross/roadrace. Now back to your regularly scheduled program.
ps. I have the hugest pile of the junk relay harnesses that you would ever believe
John
