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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 06:39 PM
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What the procedure on changing the tranny fluid? Fill it 'til it comes out or what? I plan on changing the filter, too.
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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 10:03 PM
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The procedure is to take it to the dealer and tell them to change the fluid and filter. They have a pumping system that will change all the fluid.
If you do it yourself, you'll only get about 1/4 the fluid out by draining the pan and isn't worth the effort. You'll not get any of the old oil out of the converter, valve body, or transmission ports.
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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 10:20 PM
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The procedure is to take it to the dealer and tell them to change the fluid and filter. They have a pumping system that will change all the fluid.
If you do it yourself, you'll only get about 1/4 the fluid out by draining the pan and isn't worth the effort. You'll not get any of the old oil out of the converter, valve body, or transmission ports.

Had mine done at 53,000 miles. New filter and almost 100% new fluid. The dealer I use let me stay with the car and I talked to the mechanic while he worked. It also let me give the underside of the car a good going over while it was on the lift.
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Old Aug 23, 2006 | 11:44 PM
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I see what you are saying. How much does the dealer charge for the flush?
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I see what you are saying. How much does the dealer charge for the flush?
The hourly rate for labor + filter and fluid I would imagine
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I need to do this as well. I'm new to C5's and I was wondering if the DIY here: [URL="https://www.corvetteforum.com/techtips/viewsubtopic.php?SubTopicID=280&TopicID= 2"] would work on the new A4. I'm sure it will be a bigger PITA to crawl under and fill 4 quarts at a time! I've just heard too many horror stories of having the flush done mechanically on higher milage cars with unknown history.
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Originally Posted by Turbosixx
What the procedure on changing the tranny fluid? Fill it 'til it comes out or what? I plan on changing the filter, too.
This link will give you the process from start to finish. Fluid is checked at the temperature noted in the instructions.(86* to 122* degrees F)

Look at the C-5 Technical section of this link. I used it for my trans, filter and fluid change.



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I got a B&M racing pan which has a drain on the bottom.......I may try the fluid change myself and leave the filter alone.


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I got a B&M racing pan which has a drain on the bottom.......I may try the fluid change myself and leave the filter alone.


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My C5 came with a drain plug in it.

after taking it to one shop to have it changed, I asked them to put a plug in while they had it apart, 175.00 later after they were done they told me they wouldn't put the drain plug in because it might leak. so I took it home. three months later I took it to a good friend of mine and had the tranny rebuilt in anticipation of nitrous with future plans for twin turbos, low and behold when I asked him to put a drain plug in because the last shop wouldn't he told me it already had one.

I got my 175.00 back from the other shop
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Originally Posted by Dirty Howie
I got a B&M racing pan which has a drain on the bottom.......I may try the fluid change myself and leave the filter alone.


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Drain plug would make it very easy for draining, although I found the refilling to be the hardest part of the project. Had to use one of those plastic ($5.00) hand pumps to put the fluid back. You have to pump it in until it runs out before you know you're close to the full zone. Then make sure it's up to temperature to get the hot level reading. Plus your pumping the fluid in with the engine running and a hot exhaust pipe 1/2" from the hose and your fingers.

Still was glad I did it my self. I know it has the correct fill.
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Originally Posted by Turbosixx
I see what you are saying. How much does the dealer charge for the flush?
It was two seperate service procedures. Transmission service/drop pan+filter kit: Labor $59.03, Parts $40.95. Transmission flush: Labor $58.47, Parts/Fluid $61.48.
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DIY.
It is very easy as I just did it on mine a month ago. One this that the instructions don't tell you is why you have to have the engine running and up to temp when you fill. This is a PITA since the fill plug is about 4 inches away from the exhaust pipe which is VERY HOT. I started filling it up and told the Ms. to turn the engine off because I was melting under the car. WRONG WRONG as soon as the car shuts off it burps about 1.5 quarts of HOT fluid everywhere.
Take your time, remove the filter and clean the pan. Replace the fluid and you will have no issues. Just be prepared to get real nasty and very hot.
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by C5forFun
My C5 came with a drain plug in it.

after taking it to one shop to have it changed, I asked them to put a plug in while they had it apart, 175.00 later after they were done they told me they wouldn't put the drain plug in because it might leak. so I took it home. three months later I took it to a good friend of mine and had the tranny rebuilt in anticipation of nitrous with future plans for twin turbos, low and behold when I asked him to put a drain plug in because the last shop wouldn't he told me it already had one.

I got my 175.00 back from the other shop
Thats not a drain plug, that is where you pump fluid into to fill the tranny.
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 12:18 PM
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Thats not a drain plug, that is where you pump fluid into to fill the tranny.
then why is it on the bottom of the pan?

the fill is in the body of the transmision, above the pan mount.
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Originally Posted by C5forFun
then why is it on the bottom of the pan?

the fill is in the body of the transmision, above the pan mount.
Sounds like you bought the car used and someone had a drain plug installed in the stock pan or you have one of the aftermarkets that come that way like the B&M


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do the dealer thing
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then why is it on the bottom of the pan?

the fill is in the body of the transmision, above the pan mount.
On an automatic transmission specifically the 4L60E installed on all 1997-2004 Corvettes the fill plug is located on the left side of the pan, you will never pump fluid into the side of the transmission case on an A4 tranny unless you remove the small -4 plug thats used as a pressure port for diagnostics
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 11:28 AM
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I don't understand the fill while hot thing.
Why wouldn't you fill it cold, replace the plug, then start it and bring it up to operating temp and then remove plug and check it?
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 06:32 PM
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I got a B&M racing pan which has a drain on the bottom.......I may try the fluid change myself and leave the filter alone.


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Change the fluid yourself!
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 06:40 PM
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I don't understand the fill while hot thing.
Why wouldn't you fill it cold, replace the plug, then start it and bring it up to operating temp and then remove plug and check it?
It don't work like that.
You can only fill 1 quart of fluid in the pan, cold and with the engine off.
When it is on it is pumping fluid from the bottom of the pan, hence will allow you to fill. If it is not at operating temp then you will start to overflow too early and thus be low on fluid which can burn clutches, etc.
Easy job just messy. Don't bother draining the fluid if you are not going to change the filter. That is the main gain, that and cleaning the soot off the bottom of the ban.
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