C5 Tech Corvette Tech/Performance: LS1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Tech Topics, Basic Tech, Maintenance, How to Remove & Replace
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Need help ! ANYONE have this problem

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 1, 2006 | 10:22 PM
  #1  
patrickboyle's Avatar
patrickboyle
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
20 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 785
Likes: 6
Default Need help ! ANYONE have this problem

I have a 2003 A4 coupe with a vibration above 50mph. The gear shift & seats will shake, then stop..shake then stop. The vibration or rumble will increase with speed. If I put the car in neutral it's still there. I had the rear tires "road forced" (balanced) same shake in the car. The car has 4900 easy miles on it, I'm lost & fear takng it to the dealer...Anybody have any ideas or have a similiar problem?? You guys think driveline, like driveshafts ? rear ? HELP

Pat
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2006 | 11:01 PM
  #2  
ajg1915's Avatar
ajg1915
Race Director
Supporting Lifetime Gold
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 15,960
Likes: 21
From: West Norriton PA
St. Jude Donor '08
Default

What kind of vibration are you feeling.

If the vette is in neutral and you hit the gas, you state that you are getting a vibration. If that is the case, it could be either the torque tube or some internal engine problem.

Have you check the DTC for codes ? If so are there any showing ?

Have you checked to see that all of your motor mount, rear and drive line harware is properly torqued.

It appears from your description that something is out of balance. Did you check the harmonic balancer ?
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2006 | 11:17 PM
  #3  
patrickboyle's Avatar
patrickboyle
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
20 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 785
Likes: 6
Default

The vibe is coming from the rear of the car. I have not checked for codes..The shake in the car comes in at or above 50mph for a couple seconds then dissapears..comes in the goes away. The frequency increases with speed, I've beenm told tires, & poss driveline components. Feedback from the forum first, then a trip to a "trusted" forum tuner is probably the nest step.
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2006 | 12:43 AM
  #4  
mvvette97's Avatar
mvvette97
Melting Slicks
15 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 3,394
Likes: 12
From: Leon Iowa
St. Jude Donor '06-'07-'08-'09
Default

check the cv joints. You may have one going bad. If it is you should maybe see some grease slung around from the boot. Alo after you have drove it then feel the back side behind the rotors where the bearings wouls be to see if one side is hotter that the other. Just don't touch the rotors! They will be hot
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2006 | 12:53 AM
  #5  
Bill Dearborn's Avatar
Bill Dearborn
Tech Contributor
25 Year Member
Liked
Top Answer: 1
Top Answer: 3
 
Joined: Oct 1999
Posts: 41,037
Likes: 9,799
From: Charlotte, NC (formerly Endicott, NY)
Default

Your vibration sounds like a classic wheel balance problem. The fact that it occurs with the car in nuetral eliminates the engine as a source. Although the drive train could still be a problem I doubt it. I had an imbalance problem on one of my track tires this week and it caused the shifter to shake like hell at certain speeds. Just because it feels like it is the rear does not mean it is. Check the balance on the front wheels also. Go for the more likely fix first before getting escoteric.
Bill
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2006 | 04:54 AM
  #6  
BlownFRC's Avatar
BlownFRC
Racer
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 250
Likes: 0
Default

You might want to check your rotors too. Good luck
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2006 | 12:07 PM
  #7  
gpracer1's Avatar
gpracer1
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 5,267
Likes: 40
From: Phoenix AZ
Default

Sounds like 2 or more tires have either flat spots from sitting, are unbalanced or tires are just out of round. The 2 tires will be out of balance or whatever at different revolutions. As soon as you turn the car and make the outside wheel turn faster, they will make a slightly different harmonic frequency. Like it vibrates for 2 seconds long every 5 seconds. Then you go around a bend and it does it for 3 seconds every 8, etc.
Put the rear on jackstands or on a lift and do 60 with the T-A/H off and see if the car starts to shake. Or at Idle in gear you can see if the tire rotating slowly is out of round.
I had that problem with flat spots on a trailer that sat for 2 years.
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2006 | 12:50 PM
  #8  
AtHomeSoda's Avatar
AtHomeSoda
Melting Slicks
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 2,655
Likes: 5
From: Brea CA
Default Ok.... this may also be it...

I had a buddy that hit a curb... bent a rim... the steering wheel vibrated above 50... he replaced the rim... it got better, but was still there. It ended up being a pinched wheel bearing... Everyone kept saying wheel balance... they were balanced.. the front hub was bad.. it got replaced, and it is back to normal now... my .02
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-1

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-7

Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
Old Sep 2, 2006 | 01:02 PM
  #9  
IM QUIKR's Avatar
IM QUIKR
Melting Slicks
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 3,251
Likes: 4
Default

Originally Posted by gpracer1
Sounds like 2 or more tires have either flat spots from sitting, are unbalanced or tires are just out of round. The 2 tires will be out of balance or whatever at different revolutions. As soon as you turn the car and make the outside wheel turn faster, they will make a slightly different harmonic frequency. Like it vibrates for 2 seconds long every 5 seconds. Then you go around a bend and it does it for 3 seconds every 8, etc.
Put the rear on jackstands or on a lift and do 60 with the T-A/H off and see if the car starts to shake. Or at Idle in gear you can see if the tire rotating slowly is out of round.
I had that problem with flat spots on a trailer that sat for 2 years.

Over inflate the tires to 45psi and drive it again and see if it improves. The extra air will minimize the flat spots. A 3 year old car with 4500 miles is all but new. I'm sure you would have remembered curbing the car and even GM has better luck with wheel bearings than that. I'm also guessing that you still have the runflats on. The tread is thicker so flat spotting will last longer and be more pronounced. If you don't intend to drive it for aprolonged time, overinflate the tire to stop the flat spots from coming back. Typically you'll feel a "front end" shake through the steering wheel.

My last truck had the same shake and I was prepared to replace U-joints and other components but after looking at the dryrot on the tires I decided to replace them first. Problem fixed.

I wouldn't replace them just yet. Give them some air and time to re-shape.

Last edited by IM QUIKR; Sep 2, 2006 at 01:05 PM.
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2006 | 03:03 PM
  #10  
Wake Champ's Avatar
Wake Champ
Racer
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 383
Likes: 1
Default

This may sound crazy...but make sure (if you have directional tires) that they are mounted correctly and the arrows are pointing the right way. I have actually heard of this happening where the tire shops dont realize they are directional. This causes major vibrations, usually at 50 mph.
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2006 | 03:45 PM
  #11  
Roadking's Avatar
Roadking
Burning Brakes
Supporting Lifetime
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 935
Likes: 0
From: Trumbull CT.
Default

MY $.02 is pull the wheels off and look at the studs sticking out of the rotors. If there are round metal thin washers on any of them take them off. Remount the wheels and then take the car for a blast. They will throw the balance of a wheel off as well.
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2006 | 05:35 PM
  #12  
patrickboyle's Avatar
patrickboyle
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
20 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 785
Likes: 6
Default

Thanks for the help ! I'm going to schedule the car for a 4 wheel road force balance next week. I will first crank the tire pressure up too see if it helps or not. This is more of an annoyance than a real "issue" at least I hope that's the case. I've only spun the wheels a couple of times on this thing...Maybe I need to CLEAN the rubber a little

Pat
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2006 | 10:47 PM
  #13  
GRAY BEARD's Avatar
GRAY BEARD
Instructor
Supporting Lifetime
20 Year Member
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 127
Likes: 0
From: Ohio
Default

Any chance you have changed rims?? Might have gottten one that was bent or out of true from factory.
Reply
Old Sep 2, 2006 | 11:14 PM
  #14  
Bounty's Avatar
Bounty
Burning Brakes
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 860
Likes: 0
From: Jacksonville Florida
Default

Originally Posted by AtHomeSoda
I had a buddy that hit a curb... bent a rim... the steering wheel vibrated above 50... he replaced the rim... it got better, but was still there. It ended up being a pinched wheel bearing... Everyone kept saying wheel balance... they were balanced.. the front hub was bad.. it got replaced, and it is back to normal now... my .02

Funny this got mentioned because I too was forced into a curb a few months back and cracked both rims on the passenger side of the vehicle. After replaciong both rims and the vehicle passing a complete visual inspection I was back on the road. Almost immediately (within a few days) car began to experience the EXACT SAME vibration you are describing above 35 mph. Car would vibrate in any gear (98 A4) including nuetral.

Took the car to several "Vette Shops" here in South Florida and even the dealer. Everyone explained it was a balancing issue or alignment issue or brake rotor issue or some other nonsense. Had the car aligned, balanced, the works. Vibration began to get progressively worse and I finally took the car to a local import shop (FyneTune Performance) who now does ALL my work. Mechanic drove it, then pulled it in and placed it on the lift. Took the right rear tire off, and disassembled the wheel bearing. You could see were it was pinched and there was even some slight accumulation of metal shavings. Dealer wanted over $400 for a new wheel bearing. The guys at the import shop advised me to go get a Timken wheel bearing from Autozone. Bearing cost me $130 with sensor. After installation I have had NO issues and the vibration has not returned. Please have your wheel bearings checked before wasting more money on balancing, alignments, etc.

Last edited by Bounty; Sep 2, 2006 at 11:17 PM.
Reply
Old Sep 3, 2006 | 05:21 PM
  #15  
patrickboyle's Avatar
patrickboyle
Thread Starter
Burning Brakes
20 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 785
Likes: 6
Default

Thanks to everyone who responded. The car has never been curbed & has the factory wheels in place. Bounty, I'm going to have the rear bearings looked at by the guys at FTP I think yet this fall. Long way to travel but maybe I'll do gears & convertor while I'm there.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Need help ! ANYONE have this problem





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:10 PM.

story-0
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-2
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

Slideshow: 10 Important Corvette 'firsts' that every fan should know.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 17:02:16


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE