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Old Sep 2, 2006 | 09:41 PM
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Can someone tell me if I can change my cam on my 2000 FRC Ls1 without pulling the motor. Is ther enough room if I take out the radiator and what is involved just pulling the front plate and then swapping them out and then put it back together. Thanks
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Old Sep 2, 2006 | 10:38 PM
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no motor pull; rad.,fans,rack,h2o pump,front cover,valve covers for new springs

ck out www.ls1howto.com for a good overview
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Old Sep 3, 2006 | 12:17 AM
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I'm not a mechanic, but understand the guys who swap out cams without pulling the motor have some special tools to hold stuff in place or it all will go very badly.

Also, are you planing to up grade the springs & push rods in your head. I understand that if you upgrade the cam and don't do this you could lose the engine down the road.


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Old Sep 3, 2006 | 02:45 AM
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I don't understand why you'd want to pull the motor for a cam swap? Obviously you'll need the necessary clearance in front of the engine to actually pull the cam itself out so whatever needs to be removed in front of the motor goes. The lifters ride on the cam, pushrods-rockers above that so you'd probably want the lifters out of there so they don't simply drop down. You'll be upgrading the springs anyway so no biggie. So, what am I missing? This is the same basic V8 design that was running around in the 60's if I'm not mistaken. ... and I'm not saying that's a bad thing at all.

edit: Thinking here, the only potential issue I can think of is not to let the valves drop down into the cylinders when you remove the springs. That can be done a few different ways... pumping air into the cylinder and by physically holding the valve in there. I haven't done this in a while and never on a Chevy so... do some research. Can't be all that difficult though.

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Originally Posted by connecticut
no motor pull; rad.,fans,rack,h2o pump,front cover,valve covers for new springs

ck out www.ls1howto.com for a good overview


This site will cover it all;
The only real issue to me is the PS rack. You can get by just moving it to one side as opposed to pulling it out, but either way, it's a pure PITA!!
The rest is fairly straight forward. Just read very closly about how to hold the lifters in place with the cam out or you'll be trying to fish them out of your oil pan
Oh; and depending on the miles, you might want to go ahead and replace the OP and timing chain while you're there. Chain is already off and oil pumps right there...
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Old Sep 3, 2006 | 09:26 AM
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Thanks for your help, I was gonna pump air to hold them up but just curious about not changing the springs, I can understand if I went with a huge cam, but are the stock springs not capable of handle 430 hp?
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Old Sep 3, 2006 | 09:35 AM
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It's not the 430hp you have to worry about, it's the lift of the new cam that will be to muh for the stock springs.
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after a few swaps you will have rack rem/install down to 10 minutes
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Use a dowel to support the lifters while the cam is out.
Springs can be changed easily by rotating piston to TDC; valve has no where to drop to then.
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Old Sep 3, 2006 | 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SultansDiamond
I'm not a mechanic, but understand the guys who swap out cams without pulling the motor have some special tools to hold stuff in place or it all will go very badly.

Also, are you planing to up grade the springs & push rods in your head. I understand that if you upgrade the cam and don't do this you could lose the engine down the road.
Yeah, the things that need to be 'held in place' are 1. the lifters and 2. the valves. Lifters can be held up with dowel rods or JRP tool...valves are easier, rotate piston to TDC and they can't go anywhere.

Springs & pushrods are a must...stock springs won't be able to function right with a higher lift cam. Hardened pushrods are necessary because the stock ones will flex under high RPM with a new cam/stiff spring setup.
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Old Sep 3, 2006 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by muncie21
Use a dowel to support the lifters while the cam is out.
Springs can be changed easily by rotating piston to TDC; valve has no where to drop to then.
i tryed the dowl trick, the condensor was is in the wayunless i did somethin wrong which is common
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