Turn Signal Problem
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From: Fayetteville NC
Turn Signal Problem
I've done a search, but can't find the answer.
My turn signals have a mind of their own. Sometimes they work, sometimes they don't. Sometimes, they come on, then go off on their own. My hazzards work fine.
WTF!?!?
My turn signals have a mind of their own. Sometimes they work, sometimes they don't. Sometimes, they come on, then go off on their own. My hazzards work fine.
WTF!?!?
Drifting
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From: McKinney TX
The problem might be your hazard switch. There was a post on this, let me see if I can find it. It was a how-to to replace the hazard switch. The switch is cheap, but a little bit of a PITA to change. The method in this post makes is easier.
Drifting
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From: McKinney TX
This is it: http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=860333
Go down to reply # 6
Hope this helps
Go down to reply # 6
Hope this helps
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From: Boston, MA
I have a similar but somewhat different problem. Sometimes none of my turn signals work. Then if I turn off the engine and turn it back on, sometimes it works again -- all of them. Unpredictable.
Suggestions?
thanks
Suggestions?
thanks
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From: Wildwood MO
Did replacing the hazard switch fix the flasher problem? I have a similar issue, my turn signals work about 80% of the time (usually the first 8-10 times I use them after a "Reboot"). After that, they ignore my request until I hit the hazard button explicitly, then they wake up and work again. Does this sound like a hazard switch issue ($40 and major PITA) or does it sound like a multi-function signal switch issue ($160, much lower PITA)???
Thanks in advance,
Steve
Thanks in advance,
Steve
Last edited by SteveM; Sep 17, 2006 at 10:19 AM.
Racer
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From: Davenport IA
I replaced both in my quest to fix my rear passenger side turn signal and brake light.
Neither are really that huge of a pain. The multifunction switch is definitely easier though.
By the way autozone sells the GM stamped multi-function switch for $95...
What ever you do, don't follow the service manual's advice for removing the steering wheel to change out the multifunction switch, it was pretty easy to work around it.
J
Neither are really that huge of a pain. The multifunction switch is definitely easier though.
By the way autozone sells the GM stamped multi-function switch for $95...
What ever you do, don't follow the service manual's advice for removing the steering wheel to change out the multifunction switch, it was pretty easy to work around it.
J
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From: Wildwood MO
Does the Autozone version look exactly like the real thing?
I read through the service manual and it doesn't say to remove the steering wheel (!!!), just the upper and lower covers around it to get to the MF switch.
I assume replacing both fixed your issue?
SteveM
I read through the service manual and it doesn't say to remove the steering wheel (!!!), just the upper and lower covers around it to get to the MF switch.
I assume replacing both fixed your issue?
SteveM
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Melting Slicks
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From: Brentwood TN
Originally Posted by SteveM
Does the Autozone version look exactly like the real thing?
I read through the service manual and it doesn't say to remove the steering wheel (!!!), just the upper and lower covers around it to get to the MF switch.
I assume replacing both fixed your issue?
SteveM
I read through the service manual and it doesn't say to remove the steering wheel (!!!), just the upper and lower covers around it to get to the MF switch.
I assume replacing both fixed your issue?
SteveM
And as for the observation above that replacing the hazard warning switch is a bigger PITA than the multifunction lever, I hope I NEVER have to replace it, because if the hazard switch is a bigger PITA than the lever, I am just too old for this much fun. Replacing the turn signal lever is a lot of things but a minor swap isn't one of them.
Charlie
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From: Wildwood MO
Ah, jeez... Cruisemon's RIGHT! All I saw was "remove upper and lower cover". The airbag and steering wheel are two things I'd rather not have to remove if I didn't need to.
J--How did you work around this?
J--How did you work around this?
Melting Slicks
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From: Brentwood TN
Originally Posted by SteveM
Ah, jeez... Cruisemon's RIGHT! All I saw was "remove upper and lower cover". The airbag and steering wheel are two things I'd rather not have to remove if I didn't need to.
J--How did you work around this?
J--How did you work around this?
You get the idea.
It's probably a 6 hour flat rate job for someone who is skilled and knowledgable. It took me about 9 because I had to chase through all the different parts of the manual to find all the crap that had to be removed. The sneakiest two are the torx screws that hold the airbag cover in place. You need to turn the wheel 90 degress from driving position for easy access to the screws from the back side of the wheel. That lets you get to the air bag. It is dangerous to remove the airbag unless the battery is disconnected. Once you've done that, the steering wheel can't unlock to turn back to the driving position to remove the wheel in the drive position to be sure it goes back in the right place when you reinstall it.
If you have the dealer do the repair, it will be well over $700 and depending on the hourly rate could be over $800.
Charlie
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From: winter haven florida
St. Jude Donor '12
replacing the hazard switch is a 30 to 45 min job. the first time maybe an hour. it isnt that hard at all. just pull the center console and radio, then reach up where the radio was and release the bottom locking tab on the switch, smack the switch with a large flathead screwdriver. remove the button first though. it will come right out. put everything back together and all will be right in the world again. it fixed my quirky turn signals.
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St. Jude Donor '12
Originally Posted by 02Vert
This is it: http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=860333
Go down to reply # 6
Hope this helps
Go down to reply # 6
Hope this helps
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From: Wildwood MO
Originally Posted by cruisemon
You can't. The Torx fasteners that hold the upper and lower cover are only accessible with the wheel removed and the air bag has to be removed. The air bag wiring is inaccessible without removing the lower dash panel cover. The lower dash panel cover can't be removed without
You get the idea.
It's probably a 6 hour flat rate job for someone who is skilled and knowledgable. It took me about 9 because I had to chase through all the different parts of the manual to find all the crap that had to be removed. The sneakiest two are the torx screws that hold the airbag cover in place. You need to turn the wheel 90 degress from driving position for easy access to the screws from the back side of the wheel. That lets you get to the air bag. It is dangerous to remove the airbag unless the battery is disconnected. Once you've done that, the steering wheel can't unlock to turn back to the driving position to remove the wheel in the drive position to be sure it goes back in the right place when you reinstall it.
If you have the dealer do the repair, it will be well over $700 and depending on the hourly rate could be over $800.
You get the idea.
It's probably a 6 hour flat rate job for someone who is skilled and knowledgable. It took me about 9 because I had to chase through all the different parts of the manual to find all the crap that had to be removed. The sneakiest two are the torx screws that hold the airbag cover in place. You need to turn the wheel 90 degress from driving position for easy access to the screws from the back side of the wheel. That lets you get to the air bag. It is dangerous to remove the airbag unless the battery is disconnected. Once you've done that, the steering wheel can't unlock to turn back to the driving position to remove the wheel in the drive position to be sure it goes back in the right place when you reinstall it.
If you have the dealer do the repair, it will be well over $700 and depending on the hourly rate could be over $800.
I'll feel a lot safer when I can rely on my turn signals again. I'm surprised it performed perfectly for my State "Safety" inspection a few months ago. I guess that's just the nature of these !@#%#%# electrical gremlins.
connecticut--Does your way of replacing it involve a dremmel tool and lots of melted plastic or are we missing something obvious here?
Last edited by SteveM; Sep 17, 2006 at 09:53 PM.