H&C Combo ( of those belly button ?'s)
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H&C Combo ( of those belly button ?'s)
Going to be using Patriot stage III heads & comp cams XR275HR grind 222 224 .566 .568 @ 112
2 ?'s
1- what should I expect ( there's an opened ended answer )
2- I have a choice of install w/ cl @112 or cl @110......???
2a- or maybe all the wrong stuff
Already have corsa Indy, Jet hoted kook's Lt,high flow cats,vortex ram air...
2004 ZO6
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Jarad
2 ?'s
1- what should I expect ( there's an opened ended answer )
2- I have a choice of install w/ cl @112 or cl @110......???
2a- or maybe all the wrong stuff
Already have corsa Indy, Jet hoted kook's Lt,high flow cats,vortex ram air...
2004 ZO6
Thanks guys
Jarad
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Originally Posted by jarda
Going to be using Patriot stage III heads & comp cams XR275HR grind 222 224 .566 .568 @ 112
2 ?'s
1- what should I expect ( there's an opened ended answer )
2- I have a choice of install w/ cl @112 or cl @110......???
2a- or maybe all the wrong stuff
Already have corsa Indy, Jet hoted kook's Lt,high flow cats,vortex ram air...
2004 ZO6
Thanks guys
Jarad
2 ?'s
1- what should I expect ( there's an opened ended answer )
2- I have a choice of install w/ cl @112 or cl @110......???
2a- or maybe all the wrong stuff
Already have corsa Indy, Jet hoted kook's Lt,high flow cats,vortex ram air...
2004 ZO6
Thanks guys
Jarad
2) If you want lope do the 110, a little lope 112 no real lope get a 114
3) The corsa indy's may be a bit loud, I have the touring
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I'd go with one step bigger on the cam, i.e. to a 224/228 with a little more lift, too. You'll be sorry you went to the expense of installing a cam (or hassle, if you DIY) that's not much bigger than the stock ZO6 cam. I've got a 228/232 @112, and it doesn't have much lope at all @ 825 rpms. Don't know anything about stg 3 Patriots, so estimates would just be a WAG, but I'll say 410-425 rwhp and about 395 tq.
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Originally Posted by zeevette
I'd go with one step bigger on the cam, i.e. to a 224/228 with a little more lift, too. You'll be sorry you went to the expense of installing a cam (or hassle, if you DIY) that's not much bigger than the stock ZO6 cam. I've got a 228/232 @112, and it doesn't have much lope at all @ 825 rpms. Don't know anything about stg 3 Patriots, so estimates would just be a WAG, but I'll say 410-425 rwhp and about 395 tq.
Anyone buy any chance know next step grind number for comp?
"Do it once not twice" Great idea Thanks
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Originally Posted by jarda
Anyone buy any chance know next step grind number for comp?
"Do it once not twice" Great idea Thanks
Jarad
"Do it once not twice" Great idea Thanks
Jarad
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Let me be the devil's advocate here.
I went one step smaller on the camshaft and love it. With a 218/218 duration, .561" lift and a 114 LSA using stage IIX heads I'm making 423 sae rwhp and 398 torque. Because of the smaller cam I pass the sniffer, get better than stock gas mileage, and make more low end torque. It makes for an extremely drivable street engine. A 224/28 or bigger cam will make more HP, but only above 5,000 rpm or higher. Unless this is a drag racing engine why go bigger? For the street you want the power in the rpm band you will be using. I'd gladly e mail a file of my dyno of this baby cam package to someone who can attach it.
I went one step smaller on the camshaft and love it. With a 218/218 duration, .561" lift and a 114 LSA using stage IIX heads I'm making 423 sae rwhp and 398 torque. Because of the smaller cam I pass the sniffer, get better than stock gas mileage, and make more low end torque. It makes for an extremely drivable street engine. A 224/28 or bigger cam will make more HP, but only above 5,000 rpm or higher. Unless this is a drag racing engine why go bigger? For the street you want the power in the rpm band you will be using. I'd gladly e mail a file of my dyno of this baby cam package to someone who can attach it.
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Let me be the devil's advocate here.
I went one step smaller on the camshaft and love it. With a 218/218 duration, .561" lift and a 114 LSA using stage IIX heads I'm making 423 sae rwhp and 398 torque. Because of the smaller cam I pass the sniffer, get better than stock gas mileage, and make more low end torque. It makes for an extremely drivable street engine. A 224/28 or bigger cam will make more HP, but only above 5,000 rpm or higher. Unless this is a drag racing engine why go bigger? For the street you want the power in the rpm band you will be using. I'd gladly e mail a file of my dyno of this baby cam package to someone who can attach it.
I went one step smaller on the camshaft and love it. With a 218/218 duration, .561" lift and a 114 LSA using stage IIX heads I'm making 423 sae rwhp and 398 torque. Because of the smaller cam I pass the sniffer, get better than stock gas mileage, and make more low end torque. It makes for an extremely drivable street engine. A 224/28 or bigger cam will make more HP, but only above 5,000 rpm or higher. Unless this is a drag racing engine why go bigger? For the street you want the power in the rpm band you will be using. I'd gladly e mail a file of my dyno of this baby cam package to someone who can attach it.
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Originally Posted by willyfastz
I'll agree with you, it really depends on what he's wanting to do. I've sold a Lunati Voodoo that is .531/.531 212/218 113/109 that made an increase of a little over 30hp with the stock heads. And if the car is a a4 that is about as big as you'll want to go with a stock converter.
mn6, Heres one that shows my ignorance. What are the stock specs for zo6 cam?
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I think the first two on the stock list are LS1 and Z06 respectively.
http://www.ls1howto.com/index.php?article=23
I have 224/228 .591 115 Vette Doctors custom grind w/ Z06 heads and American Racing lTs and 6 speed. Here's the dyno sheet. It has mild lope.
Good Luck
http://www.ls1howto.com/index.php?article=23
I have 224/228 .591 115 Vette Doctors custom grind w/ Z06 heads and American Racing lTs and 6 speed. Here's the dyno sheet. It has mild lope.
Good Luck
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If your middle of the road about cams, The TR224 is a great cam.
I had it and loved it. Mine was on a 114 LSA and I passed NY and Va emmission. I upgraded to the TSP 228R when I did the heads, and it had some tuning issues
I had it and loved it. Mine was on a 114 LSA and I passed NY and Va emmission. I upgraded to the TSP 228R when I did the heads, and it had some tuning issues
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Originally Posted by phils C5 vette
If your middle of the road about cams, The TR224 is a great cam.
I had it and loved it. Mine was on a 114 LSA and I passed NY and Va emmission. I upgraded to the TSP 228R when I did the heads, and it had some tuning issues
I had it and loved it. Mine was on a 114 LSA and I passed NY and Va emmission. I upgraded to the TSP 228R when I did the heads, and it had some tuning issues
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I'm about to install the LG G5x3 cam and AFR 205 heads. Looking for some big time kick in the a$$. "Leave nothing on the table" So I'm told.
I've got the Corsa Indy's too. Behind LG longtubes. They are loud.
Have some fun.
I've got the Corsa Indy's too. Behind LG longtubes. They are loud.
Have some fun.
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Originally Posted by bennettrp
I'm about to install the LG G5x3 cam and AFR 205 heads. Looking for some big time kick in the a$$. "Leave nothing on the table" So I'm told.
I've got the Corsa Indy's too. Behind LG longtubes. They are loud.
Have some fun.
I've got the Corsa Indy's too. Behind LG longtubes. They are loud.
Have some fun.
Thank you
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Those heads are not really designed for a 346. You do know you will be giving up loads fo torque with those heads on a stock cube motor right? If you want a better combo, go with a little larger cam and smaller runner heads. If you want it to be fun on the street and not just fun over 5K rpm I would rethink your head choice.
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Originally Posted by Blue02ws6
Those heads are not really designed for a 346. You do know you will be giving up loads fo torque with those heads on a stock cube motor right? If you want a better combo, go with a little larger cam and smaller runner heads. If you want it to be fun on the street and not just fun over 5K rpm I would rethink your head choice.
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I would suggest a 224/228 590 lift 113 LSA cam and comp 921 springs. With the heads you are planning on getting and tuning, you should make well over 400 RWHP and still have good drivability. I made 443 RWHP with that cam and ported heads and headers through TI exhaust and cats.
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Originally Posted by Tsab
I would suggest a 224/228 590 lift 113 LSA cam and comp 921 springs. With the heads you are planning on getting and tuning, you should make well over 400 RWHP and still have good drivability. I made 443 RWHP with that cam and ported heads and headers through TI exhaust and cats.
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Originally Posted by Tsab
I would suggest a 224/228 590 lift 113 LSA cam and comp 921 springs. With the heads you are planning on getting and tuning, you should make well over 400 RWHP and still have good drivability. I made 443 RWHP with that cam and ported heads and headers through TI exhaust and cats.
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Originally Posted by phils C5 vette
If your middle of the road about cams, The TR224 is a great cam.
I had it and loved it. Mine was on a 114 LSA and I passed NY and Va emmission. I upgraded to the TSP 228R when I did the heads, and it had some tuning issues
I had it and loved it. Mine was on a 114 LSA and I passed NY and Va emmission. I upgraded to the TSP 228R when I did the heads, and it had some tuning issues
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Originally Posted by zeevette
I'd go with one step bigger on the cam, i.e. to a 224/228 with a little more lift, too. I've got a 228/232 @112, and it doesn't have much lope at all @ 825 rpms.