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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 03:31 AM
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I can get 398 ft-lbs and 389 hp out of my otherwise stock denali truck with stock z06 heads and cam. What i'm thinking now, is going with a better cam and stock ls1 heads, since the major hp comes from the drop in 72cc chambers to 64cc. Ls1's are a little lower on compression and will be safer on my truck. My question is now, will a comp cams ls6 spring and pushrod upgrade be enough for a bigger cam to work with the stock ls1 heads? Say I buy a used set of fully assembled heads and end up getting a used comp cams cam with say approx 224/224 and then upgrade with a comp cams spring upgrade kit, will this be OK and reliable on my truck? I can do this cheaper than stock ls6 components as ls1 heads are like $100 versus 450-600 for ls6 and a used comp cams cam is only about $100 more than a used ls6.

LS1 Heads $100
Cam $200
Spring upgrade kit $160

total cost is $460

Sell my truck stuff for $300

net $160

HP gain 50 over stock. does this look too good to be true?
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would this net more HP than a stock ls6 setup due to the bigger cam?
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is 224/224 TOO BIG without tuning on an a4?
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Old Oct 18, 2006 | 12:38 PM
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50 rwhp may be alittle on the hi side. with a 224/224 cam you may get away without a tune but you won't gain max benefit without one.
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I have how to build high-performance chevy ls1/ls6 v-8's the book. They picked up 50 crank hp with stock ls6 heads and cam on my truck. I would only need to pick up 62 crank hp to equal 50 rwhp. But I was talking crank HP anyway. Their's was without a tune. I'm wondering if LAPD can dyno tune an AWD truck?

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power programmers pick up about 25-30 rwhp on these trucks since the stock tune sucks so bad to begin with. I had planned on this setup a vr-6 king cobra intake, dyno tune possibly later, and this setup.
Goal is about 425 crank hp.
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also they tested to 5800 rpm, which is where hp peaked with the ls6 setup, since this is the stock redline. I'm hoping with the upgraded valvetrain that I can go up to 6500 or so. I believe the rotating assemblies are similar to the ls2's, but just come in an iron block. Anyone know if this is true?
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also, will I need new pushrods? what length?
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man, you are already at 400rwhp.
i wouldnt change anything.
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stock I only have 337 hp, and 375 torque. These are crank numbers, not whp.

I called comp cams and know what I need now. I should be able to get 450 crank hp with the new setup. 6500 redline

Not bad for a AWD 6000 lb truck. ALL FOR UNDER $1000

I wish I could get 113 hp out of my z06 for $1000
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Well at least stock srt-10's and lightnings wont smoke my truck now.

Time for some ZR tires.
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