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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 11:36 AM
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about 5 months back i did a cam swap... when i got everything mechancially working i noticed my oil pressure wasn't what i was expecting... I had also replaced the oil pump to a ported LS6 pump... I was expecting high pressure... well i didn't i actually got some really low pressure during the dead of summer (23#s) as the temps have cooled off my oil pressure remains at about 35psi.. after a cold start around 40-45. I changed my oil yesterday with some lucas syn. and 10W30 mobil one... oil pressure readings get up to 75... i haven't rowed through the gears up to redline to see how high it will go...

is this normal for going to a heavier oil? I think previous i had 5w30 with 1qt 0w40
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 12:37 PM
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Lucas oil products do NOT meet the very specific requirements of an LS1/6. I would never use this oil in a C5.
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 12:56 PM
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What oil filter are you using?
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 07:20 PM
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that change in oil weight shouldn't cause that great an incrase in pressure
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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Evil-Twin
Lucas oil products do NOT meet the very specific requirements of an LS1/6. I would never use this oil in a C5.
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Do you know if Valvoline Synthetic meets these requirements? The Valvoline web site states it meets the requirements for BMW, Lexus, Corvette, etc., but it does not state WHICH corvette. I don't see the GM spec on the Valvoline website either. I ask because that's what I put in when I got the car about 3k miles ago. The requirements sound very specific from what you are saying, and I don't want to screw this up. Thanks.

Edit- sorry all, not trying to hijack the thread. Carry on all, I'll contact Valvoline about this. -toxdoc

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Old Oct 28, 2006 | 09:24 PM
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ITS A HIGH VOLUME NOT HIGH PSI unreal
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Old Oct 29, 2006 | 12:34 AM
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ET,

Do you know if Valvoline Synthetic meets these requirements? The Valvoline web site states it meets the requirements for BMW, Lexus, Corvette, etc., but it does not state WHICH corvette. I don't see the GM spec on the Valvoline website either. I ask because that's what I put in when I got the car about 3k miles ago. The requirements sound very specific from what you are saying, and I don't want to screw this up. Thanks.

Edit- sorry all, not trying to hijack the thread. Carry on all, I'll contact Valvoline about this. -toxdoc
no it does not
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ITS A HIGH VOLUME NOT HIGH PSI unreal
A higher volume oil pump will give you higher pressure because an oil pump is a positive displacement pump. If you force more volume through the same path of resistance, then the pressure has to go up to by definition. This is the same exact reason the oil pressure goes up with RPMs ... because the pump is putting out more volume, and by fluid dynamics definition the pressure must also go up if the path of resistance is constant. Fluid dynamics 101,

The pressure will go up until the pressure relief valve opens to prevent over pressure to the system.

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i'm not worried about the lucas oil... i've enjoyed it for years and won't stop now because it's missing a lable..

but back on topic... i'm ideling at 45psi and can get up to 75psi... before that 40-45 was my highest... I understand the ported pump does is to flow more volume and not increase pressure.. Actually to me it would make more sense for pressure to drop with a ported pump but TSP told me to expect 5-10psi increase...

Will low oil levels reduce pressure?
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Originally Posted by N0TDADYS_98
I changed my oil yesterday with some lucas syn. and 10W30 mobil one... oil pressure readings get up to 75...
But at what RPM? I see 65 psi with a bone stock Z06 at 4000 RPMs with 210 deg F oil.
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Originally Posted by N0TDADYS_98
Will low oil levels reduce pressure?
No ... unless it's so low that it's sucking some air. That's really low.
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Originally Posted by N0TDADYS_98
I understand the ported pump does is to flow more volume and not increase pressure.. Actually to me it would make more sense for pressure to drop with a ported pump but TSP told me to expect 5-10psi increase...
Well, I don't see how any oil pump could actually increase the oil flow through an engine without increasing the oil pressure. You can't change the laws of fluid dynamics. It takes more pressure to move more volume through a fixed path of resistance. It's no different than getting more flow out a garden hose with more pressure.

The only way you could get more flow while keeping the pressure the same, is by reducing the resistance of the system. The resistance of the system in an engine is defined by the mechanical design of the oiling system and the clearances of all the bearings, etc that the oil flow travels through. That's why oil pressure goes down when the main bearings get destroyed ... because the clearances have become huge which makes the resistance to oil flow a lot less. I would believe TPS, and it makes sense and jives with what I've said above.
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Well, I don't see how any oil pump could actually increase the oil flow through an engine without increasing the oil pressure. You can't change the laws of fluid dynamics. It takes more pressure to move more volume through a fixed path of resistance. It's no different than getting more flow out a garden hose with more pressure.

The only way you could get more flow while keeping the pressure the same, is by reducing the resistance of the system. The resistance of the system in an engine is defined by the mechanical design of the oiling system and the clearances of all the bearings, etc that the oil flow travels through. That's why oil pressure goes down when the main bearings get destroyed ... because the clearances have become huge which makes the resistance to oil flow a lot less. I would believe TPS, and it makes sense and jives with what I've said above.
that makes perfect sense.
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But at what RPM? I see 65 psi with a bone stock Z06 at 4000 RPMs with 210 deg F oil.
4500-5k... doesn't seem to get higher after that.. I can drive it up to 6k and its the same..
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Originally Posted by N0TDADYS_98
I changed my oil yesterday with some lucas syn. and 10W30 mobil one...
Are you saying that you mixed Lucas and Mobil 1 oils, or that you mixed Lucas synthetic additive with Mobil 1 ??

Ref: http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/images/lucas/lucas.htm
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