Ruined Textralia!
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Burning Brakes
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Ruined Textralia!
Has any one ever ruined a Textralia clutch by using an adjustable master cylinder. I have a Tex and had an Adjustable master, and am having mild shifting problems at high RPMS. Then I heard you are not supposed to use the adjustable m/c w/ a Tex. clutch. Called the Tex. rep and he confirmed this for me. Any one else experience this?
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Drifting
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It should be easy enough to confirm or deny on autopsy...
Seems like you've really had a rough time recently.
I feel for ya bro.
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Yeah, its been a long rd, but its almost over. Looking forward to some track time real soon.
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The Adjustable Master simply adjusts the rod for pedal height. I guess if the rod was adjusted out too far it could conceivably push the pressure plate way to far.. You can check it by pushing the pedal to the floor while it's running and in gear.. Then see how far you lift the pedal before it engages...
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On a hydraulic clutch there is a check ball in the master try opening the bleeder screw and see if you have pressure in there because the hydraulic pressure can slowly build up and not release all the way causing the clutch to stay engaged especially if you tried adjusting the free play on the pedal.
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Burning Brakes
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We installed a new stock m/c.
Chuckster, if I understand correctly the adjustable pushes more volume which hyper extends the fingers on the pressure plate. If any one should know it would be Jared Cunningham the rep. from Textralia. He said using this master w/ this clutch would ruin it. I think he is going to try an get a new clutch out to me under warranty, so he not just trying to sell me another clutch!
Thanks a lot for the action on the thread guys! I enjoy trouble shooting and discussing these things.
Chuckster, if I understand correctly the adjustable pushes more volume which hyper extends the fingers on the pressure plate. If any one should know it would be Jared Cunningham the rep. from Textralia. He said using this master w/ this clutch would ruin it. I think he is going to try an get a new clutch out to me under warranty, so he not just trying to sell me another clutch!
Thanks a lot for the action on the thread guys! I enjoy trouble shooting and discussing these things.
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Nice post title.
Seems like Tex is fixing your problem.
97Rob [quote]Just talked w/ Jared from textralia and he said that I probably ruined the clutch by using an adjustable m/c. He said to call back Monday, and he would see about taking care of the clutch under warranty. This will be my second dealing w/ this guy on a clutch warranty. This company has to have the best customer services I've experienced.
Seems like Tex is fixing your problem.
97Rob [quote]Just talked w/ Jared from textralia and he said that I probably ruined the clutch by using an adjustable m/c. He said to call back Monday, and he would see about taking care of the clutch under warranty. This will be my second dealing w/ this guy on a clutch warranty. This company has to have the best customer services I've experienced.
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We installed a new stock m/c.
Chuckster, if I understand correctly the adjustable pushes more volume which hyper extends the fingers on the pressure plate. If any one should know it would be Jared Cunningham the rep. from Textralia. He said using this master w/ this clutch would ruin it. I think he is going to try an get a new clutch out to me under warranty, so he not just trying to sell me another clutch!
Thanks a lot for the action on the thread guys! I enjoy trouble shooting and discussing these things.
Chuckster, if I understand correctly the adjustable pushes more volume which hyper extends the fingers on the pressure plate. If any one should know it would be Jared Cunningham the rep. from Textralia. He said using this master w/ this clutch would ruin it. I think he is going to try an get a new clutch out to me under warranty, so he not just trying to sell me another clutch!
Thanks a lot for the action on the thread guys! I enjoy trouble shooting and discussing these things.
The ones I have seen are essentially Stock Masters with a threaded shaft.. if it's adjusted so far that the master is already starting to engage the clutch I can see it happening..
This is the exact reason I believe so many stock clutches have the sticky issue.. They are over extending the pressure plate springs
Normally you hit the floor before you bottom out the Master..
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You did not specify if the adjustable was an after market... Only way to increase the fluid volume is to increase the Bore size have the shaft incorrectly adjusted
The ones I have seen are essentially Stock Masters with a threaded shaft.. if it's adjusted so far that the master is already starting to engage the clutch I can see it happening..
This is the exact reason I believe so many stock clutches have the sticky issue.. They are over extending the pressure plate springs
Normally you hit the floor before you bottom out the Master..
The ones I have seen are essentially Stock Masters with a threaded shaft.. if it's adjusted so far that the master is already starting to engage the clutch I can see it happening..
This is the exact reason I believe so many stock clutches have the sticky issue.. They are over extending the pressure plate springs
Normally you hit the floor before you bottom out the Master..
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I have heard to stay away from the Mcleod adjustable masters for just about any LS1 single disk clutch for the reasons posted above (over extending the pressure plate)
Why not just throw an OEM Ls6 master in there and call it a day? I went with the LS6 master and slave for my Tex and it seems to be working properly so far.
Why not just throw an OEM Ls6 master in there and call it a day? I went with the LS6 master and slave for my Tex and it seems to be working properly so far.
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I have heard to stay away from the Mcleod adjustable masters for just about any LS1 single disk clutch for the reasons posted above (over extending the pressure plate)
Why not just throw an OEM Ls6 master in there and call it a day? I went with the LS6 master and slave for my Tex and it seems to be working properly so far.
Why not just throw an OEM Ls6 master in there and call it a day? I went with the LS6 master and slave for my Tex and it seems to be working properly so far.
What ruined the clutch is the fact that the Master was NOT ADJUSTED properly.. Plain and simple.. If it was adjusted correctly.. The pedal would bottom out on the firewall well before you overextended the fingers. That is the entire point of having an adjustable master.
It's sort of like saying my car went too fast because the gas pedal can go all the way to the floor..
Not trying to be a jerk, just trying to shed some light here.. some people on this forum like to turn everything into a Witch hunt.
Sounds like the Tex Rep should have known better than to simply blame it on the master with no explaination.
Last edited by chuckster; Apr 11, 2007 at 02:09 PM.
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I don't believe the OP stated anywhere in this thread yet that the adjustable M/C was the culprit and swapping it out for an OEM unit fixed the problem.
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The point being that the TEX rep said it and then the last post about staying away from the AdJ Master because it over extends..Again.. Only because it was misadjusted to begin with..
I simply wanted to keep the Cause and and the Symptom factual..
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Had the same issue. At the time mine was installed Textrailia was non-commitant about the adj master cyl (mine was mcleod), had shifting problems for about a year (kept me off the track, I was pissed), after trying multiple adjustments, I had it replaced with a LS6 master, now its all good. Squeels a bit from a stop, but no big deal.
I doubt your clutch is ruined, but let us know how it works out.
Good Luck!
I doubt your clutch is ruined, but let us know how it works out.
Good Luck!