Why not to get a Blackwing???
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Why not to get a Blackwing???
OK,
I've heard great things about the Donaldon Blackwing and other air intakes. What are the drawbacks? Why wouldn't I want to install one?
Thanks,
Rick... :confused:
I've heard great things about the Donaldon Blackwing and other air intakes. What are the drawbacks? Why wouldn't I want to install one?
Thanks,
Rick... :confused:
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Re: Why not to get a Blackwing??? (MindPlay)
I just installed the HallTech Carbon Fiber TRIC and it uses the
Donaldson Blackwing. After the install the Blackwing is literally
about 4-5 inches off the ground, of course thats the TRIC set-up.
No issues and it's been one whole week :crazy:
Donaldson Blackwing. After the install the Blackwing is literally
about 4-5 inches off the ground, of course thats the TRIC set-up.
No issues and it's been one whole week :crazy:
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Re: Why not to get a Blackwing??? (Purerock105)
Interesting set up with Haltech Tric setup, the Blackwing is the best, fits in stock location and is the closest thing to GM factory there is. Look at the 02 Z06, GM merely opened the air box a little more for more filter surface, it has been engineered to receive cold air from the Z06 screens..point the more filter surface the more air. :cool:
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Re: Why not to get a Blackwing??? (Purerock105)
The halltech unit doesn't use a Blackwing, they use a smaller unit than the actual Blackwing itself. Some filter he uses or has used in the past are the donaldson brand, some aren't.
Install on the Blackwing is without cutting the shroud, simply remove the old and put on the new.
We have the BW on special this month. $215 shipped for 97-00 and $225, shipped, for the 01/02 cars.
RG
[Modified by RG in Dallas, 12:07 PM 10/10/2001]
Install on the Blackwing is without cutting the shroud, simply remove the old and put on the new.
We have the BW on special this month. $215 shipped for 97-00 and $225, shipped, for the 01/02 cars.
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Re: Why not to get a Blackwing??? (MindPlay)
Yeah, what RG said. The Blackwing is huge. Easy install. There is also a cold air conversion available that requires cutting the shroud and covering the filter. That is what I have. It's a great system. I've seen tons of filters and none better. The cold-air shroud is rather cheap in my opinion. It doesn't provide a great fit and the finish is nowhere near Halltech's. But ya gotta let that filter breath fresh air. :cheers:
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Re: Why not to get a Blackwing??? (EvilDeed)
BlackWing works for me. There was a used one with coldair setup for sale in C5 parts. Make the guy an offer and get a BlackWIng cleaning kit in the process.
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Re: Why not to get a Blackwing??? (MindPlay)
I think the only drawback is the price! I chose the blackwing because:
- No cutting/easy return to stock
- Execellent form and fit in the C5 - mounts on existing pins
- Accepts all lines/plumbing
- Cleanable/reusable
Good luck,
- No cutting/easy return to stock
- Execellent form and fit in the C5 - mounts on existing pins
- Accepts all lines/plumbing
- Cleanable/reusable
Good luck,
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Re: Why not to get a Blackwing??? (MindPlay)
I keep reading that there are potential problems with water and the various cold air modifications, but nobody has ever explained this to me and I can't quite figure it out. I would greatly appreciate an explanation if anyone has it.
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Re: Why not to get a Blackwing??? (eison)
The Blackwing alone is not a cold-air breather.. While it is more "open" than the stock filter, it still sits in the stock position. I think most people agree that this does not significantly increase your chances of water injestion.
Cutting of the radiator shroud and allowing cold air to enter the filter is yet another step.. and this is where the controversy is.
Cutting of the radiator shroud and allowing cold air to enter the filter is yet another step.. and this is where the controversy is.
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Re: Why not to get a Blackwing??? (eison)
I keep reading that there are potential problems with water and the various cold air modifications, but nobody has ever explained this to me and I can't quite figure it out. I would greatly appreciate an explanation if anyone has it.
Water will not compress in the cylinder. Therefore it will displace the air/fuel mixture and increase compression. One teaspoon of water in the cylinder will cause the compression to go to 20:1. Boom. Hydrolock!
Please be careful and good luck. :cry :sad:
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Re: Why not to get a Blackwing??? (MelloYellow)
Some I've read here seem to have fuel metering problems with many/most of the free-flowing air filters, reporting running lean. Given power output and fuel milage, the system must be pretty close to lean to begin with, under many driving conditions. Any comments? Thanks!
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Re: Why not to get a Blackwing??? (eison)
Thanks for the explanation, RedHot. Any way around it with any cold air system, or do I just need to remain stock if it concerns me?
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Re: Why not to get a Blackwing??? (Avanti)
Some I've read here seem to have fuel metering problems with many/most of the free-flowing air filters, reporting running lean. Given power output and fuel milage, the system must be pretty close to lean to begin with, under many driving conditions. Any comments? Thanks!
Installing the Blackwing on my 98, I have seen a slight improvement in both power and fuel economy. I'm completely stock except for the filter.
"Your mileage may vary"
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Re: Why not to get a Blackwing??? (MelloYellow)
Mike I heard you met my friend Frankie at the Jewelry store next to the UPS dropoff. He said you guys talked about it all,(he has a GN and a 98 white vert).
When is your stuff going back together ?
When is your stuff going back together ?
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Re: Why not to get a Blackwing??? (MindPlay)
Why not to get a Blackwing???
I tried to search for old posts about it, but they are all gone. I got a K&N RE-0920, which is actually about an inch too long to be a perfect fit. If you are going to cut the radiator shroud so that it extends through the bottom, it will be fine, but if you leave the shroud intact, the end of the filter gets squished by about an inch.
K&N has dozens of different filters, and there is probably one that fits perfectly with the shroud intact. I think my filter is 9" long and has a 3.5" connection.