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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 07:21 PM
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Taking the interior apart, y'know the top seat belt ring? It's held on by a 15mm hex nut and apparently the head gets run very easily. So I busted its head and it's fully run, can't get a grip with anything. Grip pliers runs right off too. I've tried PB Blaster, but this nut also has a sleeve that goes about 1 inch length down the shaft of the bolt itself. I've thought of drilling out the bolt shaft but it's welded onto the vert frame. DAMNIT

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Have you tried any of the special sockets that Sears sells for rounded off nuts?
They also make nut splitters that cut into the side of the nut so you can just relieve the threads and slide the nut off.
If you can get to it, you can also carefully cut one side of the nut with a single hack saw blade.

That should keep you busy for awhile...

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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 10:02 PM
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Busted a nut eh? That sounds like a personal problem

What about vice grips?
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Ya, I've vice gripped the life out of it. Nothing left to grip.

I haven't tried the sears tools. I'll go check it out tonight. The first thing I did was try to dremel it off, but then realized it wasn't a regular nut. When I took off the nut on the other side, I see there's a long sleeve attached to that nut so i can't cut it.

Here's a pic so that you can see how beatup it is.



I don't know why GM made this from such soft metal. It's run on almost all sides, and even the top (from vice gripping it)
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Originally Posted by sigma6
Taking the interior apart, y'know the top seat belt ring? It's held on by a 15mm hex nut and apparently the head gets run very easily. So I busted its head and it's fully run, can't get a grip with anything. Grip pliers runs right off too. I've tried PB Blaster, but this nut also has a sleeve that goes about 1 inch length down the shaft of the bolt itself. I've thought of drilling out the bolt shaft but it's welded onto the vert frame. DAMNIT

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the thread title is hilarious!
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 11:53 PM
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I got it The exact same thing happend to me when was mounting my harness bar there. I had to go to the stealership and they air chisled / cut threw the bolt. That hardware there is cheap as hell I tried vice grips, stripped socket set, ect for about 2 days. The dealer then gave me a new bold and nut for the belts (better qualitry) and they only charged me for the parts I think I paid $5 or so and the labor was only about 30 mins anyways
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 01:10 AM
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No kidding?! You have some cool dealerships around you. I live in SoCal so I doubt I'll be getting the same type of service. I'll ask around anyway. Thanks for the info!
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No kidding?! You have some cool dealerships around you. I live in SoCal so I doubt I'll be getting the same type of service. I'll ask around anyway. Thanks for the info!
Go to a muffler shop and have them weld a nut to the busted up nut, then you'll be able to get it off.
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Ya, I've vice gripped the life out of it. Nothing left to grip.

I haven't tried the sears tools. I'll go check it out tonight. The first thing I did was try to dremel it off, but then realized it wasn't a regular nut. When I took off the nut on the other side, I see there's a long sleeve attached to that nut so i can't cut it.

Here's a pic so that you can see how beatup it is.



I don't know why GM made this from such soft metal. It's run on almost all sides, and even the top (from vice gripping it)


i thought this bolt was a torx bit bolt not a hex. at least mine are. Sorry for the trouble
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Sears sells an item call a "Screw Out". It attaches to your drill and will cut into the screw shaft and drill it right out.
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Originally Posted by sigma6
Taking the interior apart, y'know the top seat belt ring? It's held on by a 15mm hex nut and apparently the head gets run very easily. So I busted its head and it's fully run, can't get a grip with anything. Grip pliers runs right off too. I've tried PB Blaster, but this nut also has a sleeve that goes about 1 inch length down the shaft of the bolt itself. I've thought of drilling out the bolt shaft but it's welded onto the vert frame. DAMNIT

Any ideas?
It is too late for my "suggestion" at this stage in the game, because the nut is too rounded - BUT, this is the perfect example of why it pays to use Snap On tools - Snap On is higher priced, and for MOST jobs, Craftsman or similar tools work fine - but one of the reasons you pay so much more for Snap On is that Snap On has done much research and designed their wrenches to grip where other wrenches do not grip, and they are designed to grip on the flat sides of the nut/bolt, rather than gripping on the corners, which get rounded off.

I'm not saying that you ABSOLUTELY would not have rounded the corners with a Snap On wrench, but I think the chances of ending up here would have been less.

I've learned this lesson the hard way. I'm NOT knocking the tools or method you used, just relaying what I've learned.

Good luck w/ it - at this point I would try a Craftsman or Snap On removal tool as suggested above.
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 02:28 PM
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BUT, this is the perfect example of why it pays to use Snap On tools - Snap On is higher priced, and for MOST jobs, Craftsman or similar tools work fine -
You are absolutely 100% correct! I thoguht about this in hindsight but nonetheless will be spending big $$ on getting some non-junk tools. Saving a little here ends up costing a lot more -> there.

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Sears sells an item call a "Screw Out". It attaches to your drill and will cut into the screw shaft and drill it right out.
Will check this out today!

Thanks for the tips everyone.

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Originally Posted by sigma6
You are absolutely 100% correct! I thoguht about this in hindsight but nonetheless will be spending big $$ on getting some non-junk tools. Saving a little here ends up costing a lot more -> there.



Will check this out today!

Thanks for the tips everyone.
Glad you understand I wasn't trying to add insult to injury with my post And, GOOD LUCK and keep us posted of your progress. I do think that I would try the Craftsman nut removal tool at this point, if for no other reason, it is probably more readily available than getting one from the Snap On dealer right now -

I THINK I understand about how it isn't just a normal nut, but that there is something underneath the nut which screws onto the threads -

Another idea - maybe see if you can get it to turn by using a chisel and hammer - also, IF you can apply heat (mini torch or something) to the nut itself, it might expand it enough to help w/ loosening it.
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Is the sleeve part of the nut also threaded?
If not, it seems like you could still cut through one side of the nut to relieve the pressure on the threads and it would come off.
Were you using a 6 point socket or 12 point? The picture does not look totally rounded. Maybe a 6 point socket would still help.
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by TEXHAWK0
Is the sleeve part of the nut also threaded?
Ya, the entire sleeve is threaded about 2-3 inches deep. You're right the pic looks like it's not all the way rounded and run off but it's because top view it's showing the bottom most base of the nut. The grippable parts are alllllllll gone haha.
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Originally Posted by sigma6
No kidding?! You have some cool dealerships around you. I live in SoCal so I doubt I'll be getting the same type of service. I'll ask around anyway. Thanks for the info!
They just put in a new transmission in one of my vettes and replaced the belts twice this month in the other one so they better be cool to me
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YES!!! I am VICTORIOUS!!!!

Hahaa. I filed down the circular nut so that it had 2 straight edged sides, and put a 12" crescent wrench to it and it gave. BUSTED THAT NUT!!!!


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Congrats, and EXCELLENT enginuity!! Wishing that I had advised you that the method you chose might work - oh well, glad it worked
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Thanks, I was going to get the craftsman removal tool but sears ran out of them or didn't have it in stock nearby. Gonna buy one on ebay for next time!
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Originally Posted by sigma6
YES!!! I am VICTORIOUS!!!!

Hahaa. I filed down the circular nut so that it had 2 straight edged sides, and put a 12" crescent wrench to it and it gave. BUSTED THAT NUT!!!!


Damn, look how shriveled up your nut!!!! is
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