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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 09:15 AM
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I am about to purchase a new set of wheels and tires from the Tire Rack, SSR GT 3'S 18x9.5 front & 19x11 rear. My question is what size tires will give me the best stance and look? Luke from the Tire Rack is a very knowledgable guy and he is suggesting I go with a 255/40/18 front and 285/35/19 rear (by the way I am going with Brigestone Potenzas for they seem like the best value.) . I however, was leaning toward 255/35/18 & 305/30/19 combo, because I wanted the widest looking tire I can fit (without tubs)for the rear. I mostly just do some spirited driving, car shows and maybe 3 or 4 passes a year at E-Town. I drive about 4,0000 miles a year on the car, so let's just say looks outweigh overall performance. I am afraid the 285's won't give me the desired "beefy" look in the rear, but I don't want to affect the proper rake of the car. Any opinions or help would be much appreciated. I need to pull the trigger on this deal today!
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 11:19 AM
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I can't help you regarding the subjective qualities of your inquiry, i.e., how it looks, but use this calculator to understand the differences in the sizing and tire diameter of your various choices. The diameter will be key to the "rake", and this will also show you the sidewall height of the different tires, if that is what you mean by "beefiness". Good luck. The SSR GT3 is a beautiful wheel.
www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

Personally, I would go with a 265 or 275/35-18 on the front, and a 305/30-19 on the rear. Shouldn't need tubbing and shouldn't rub, assuming the offsets of the wheels aren't weird.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 11:53 AM
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Thanks for the link, I have all the specs as far as overall diam., tread width, sect width ect.
I guess I was looking for some people who are running 305/30/19's in the rear to get some real time feedback.
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Tire rack has a handy spec sheet for all of there tires that will show you tire diameter as well. However, as long as you keep a slightly larger diameter in the rear, you can control that "raked" look by tweaking your suspension bolts ever so slightly.
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Old Mar 14, 2007 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Phat Ride
I am about to purchase a new set of wheels and tires from the Tire Rack, SSR GT 3'S 18x9.5 front & 19x11 rear. My question is what size tires will give me the best stance and look? Luke from the Tire Rack is a very knowledgable guy and he is suggesting I go with a 255/40/18 front and 285/35/19 rear (by the way I am going with Brigestone Potenzas for they seem like the best value.) . I however, was leaning toward 255/35/18 & 305/30/19 combo, because I wanted the widest looking tire I can fit (without tubs)for the rear. I mostly just do some spirited driving, car shows and maybe 3 or 4 passes a year at E-Town. I drive about 4,0000 miles a year on the car, so let's just say looks outweigh overall performance. I am afraid the 285's won't give me the desired "beefy" look in the rear, but I don't want to affect the proper rake of the car. Any opinions or help would be much appreciated. I need to pull the trigger on this deal today!

I just looked up the specs on the Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires that I Assume you are wanting. Based on the specs and your wheel size, I believe the optimum combo would be:

Front: 275/35-18 (25.6" diameter)
Rear: 305/30-19 (26.2" diameter)

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Originally Posted by thehammer69
I just looked up the specs on the Bridgestone Potenza RE050A tires that I Assume you are wanting. Based on the specs and your wheel size, I believe the optimum combo would be:

Front: 275/35-18 (25.6" diameter)
Rear: 305/30-19 (26.2" diameter)

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I originally thought the same, however according to Luke at the TireRack that combo would throw off the proper rake of the car.
His recommendation is the 255/40/18(26.1" diam.) front 285/35 19 rear (26.7 diam.) ??
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Originally Posted by Phat Ride
I originally thought the same, however according to Luke at the TireRack that combo would throw off the proper rake of the car.
His recommendation is the 255/40/18(26.1" diam.) front 285/35 19 rear (26.7 diam.) ??
How can the car's rake be different????? Same difference in overall tire diameters....
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Originally Posted by Phat Ride
I originally thought the same, however according to Luke at the TireRack that combo would throw off the proper rake of the car.
His recommendation is the 255/40/18(26.1" diam.) front 285/35 19 rear (26.7 diam.) ??
Mike,

The tire sizes Luke is recommending gives the same staggered diameter difference as what Hammer is recommending. They would just be slightly lower profile tires. And once again, take care of the "rake" with suspension, not tires. You aren't going to notice any real variation in the look of a tire with a .6" diameter difference.

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Hate to say this, but Luke is full of crap. Get the setup suggested previously of 305/30-19, and 275/35-18. They'll look and work better than "Luke's" suggestion. I'd further suggest considering the Yokohama Advan Sports in those sizes.
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Good choice of wheels.

See my sig for tire sizes. 305s in the rear will work fine too.
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Thanks everyone for your input, I changed my order to the 275/35/18 front and 305/30/19 rears
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Originally Posted by Phat Ride
Thanks everyone for your input, I changed my order to the 275/35/18 front and 305/30/19 rears
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Originally Posted by Phat Ride
Thanks everyone for your input, I changed my order to the 275/35/18 front and 305/30/19 rears
A 265/35/18 front tire would be a better choice as the sidewall on a 275/35/18 tire is taller than the sidewall of a 305/30/19 rear tire.

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Originally Posted by Russ K
A 265/35/18 front tire would be a better choice as the sidewall on a 275/35/18 tire is taller than the sidewall of a 305/30/19 rear tire.

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It's taller by 5mm. I doubt that will even be visible.
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Yes, but a 265/35/18 side wall is slightly higher than a 305/30/19!

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Originally Posted by Russ K
Yes, but a 265/35/18 side wall is slightly higher than a 305/30/19!

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Yep. The 265/35 has only 1.27 mm more sidewall than the 305/30. This will be my choice for the front.

A 255/35 would look even better, but I'm not going narrower than stock.
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Geez...I know this is an old post, but......I'm also switching wheels and tires. Going with 18s all around (can't find 17s or 19s anywhere for what I want). I'm concerned about the "rake" also. Would those 275s and 305s still work with all 18s???
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Originally Posted by CindysC5
Geez...I know this is an old post, but......I'm also switching wheels and tires. Going with 18s all around (can't find 17s or 19s anywhere for what I want). I'm concerned about the "rake" also. Would those 275s and 305s still work with all 18s???
With 18's all around, and a width of 3 or 4 steps, you're good to go so long as you keep the same aspect ratio. In your case 35's front and rear would maintain the rake and approximately same diameter as stock.
Edit, by "all 18's" , yes, so long as they're the right width and offset.

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Rake is a measurement of suspension height and even with tires of the same diameter yo can still establish the correct rake. For convenience sake most measure rake at the front point past the front frame rail tie down to the height at the back of the rear frame rail. You want 5-9MM higher rear heights (about 1/4 to 5/16"). the ride height is controlled by the length of the spring bolts in the front and rear. If you have an even ride height do not run you car much past 125 mph or your car now becomes a wing and the front starts rising.
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Originally Posted by CindysC5
Geez...I know this is an old post, but......I'm also switching wheels and tires. Going with 18s all around (can't find 17s or 19s anywhere for what I want). I'm concerned about the "rake" also. Would those 275s and 305s still work with all 18s???
Go to the tire rack site and look up the front and rear tire diameters for the stock setup. Then use their site to choose what size front and rear tire diameters bring you close to the stock diameters or keep the stock front to rear size ratio. If you divide the rear diameter by the front you will see 1.04. Just make sure the calculation for the new tires stays close to 1.04. Keeping that ratio will let the ABS and traction control work properly no matter what the final tire diameters end up being.

It is actually pretty simple.

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