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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 04:09 PM
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I'm dropping a few bucks into the car to freshen it up a little bit before I get back to the states. Considering it has a mild cam and heads now waiting to go on it, I'm thinking it might be time to step up to some lower gears when I take it apart for hardened axleshafts and inspection.

It's a '98 M6. I usually cruise around 77 MPH. I really DONT want to kill the mileage, this is a DD car, and as is pulls 33-34 MPG with a cam and some bolt ons. Hoping I dont kill the mileage off with a fresh shortblock and heads/intake install.

I'm torn between 3.73's and 3.90's. Which would you use and why? Keep in mind, the mileage factor here. I spend lots of time on the interstate, at least up to this point. Also would you build a unit or buy one from a place like DTE?

I'll be installing some new GM CV axles, wheel studs and a DTE brace at this time as well. For now the torque tube will get a new aluminum bushing unless I find a newer torque tube I can afford (so I can upgrade). I'll also be freshening up the tierod ends and other components for preventative maintenance, so I dont want to drop too much in one area. I have been considering a 402 L92 buildup down the road, but it'll be awhile from now if I decide to do it.
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 04:32 PM
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from 3.42 to 3.73 is a 9% change

from 3.42 to 3.90 is a 14% change

since you have a 6 speed already (with two overdrive gears), I doubt that gas mileage would be affected much while cruising the highway in 6th.
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 10:50 AM
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i have a pretty similar mod list... I think i'm going ot have DTE make me a stage 2 with 4.10's..

might as well go big. seriously what is 2 miles per gallon when you have 4.10's
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4.10 on a mn6 now you will actually use 5th gear.
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 12:50 PM
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With 4.10s I still got 31 MPG. 4.10s
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 01:48 PM
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With 4.10s I still got 31 MPG. 4.10s
No way
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Wake Champ
No way
Yes way

I'm not the only one who has gotten these same results.

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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 06:07 PM
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While the car is coasting? That doesn't really count.
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Originally Posted by Wake Champ
While the car is coasting? That doesn't really count.
I don't know why people are surprised by getting 31 mpg w/ 4.10s. Personally, my MN6 w/ 3.42s gets 33-36 mpg for all-highway driving. Automatic cars typically don't do nearly as well.
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 09:09 PM
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 09:16 PM
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Go 4.10's. my mileage hasn't suffered much at all. I loved the chabge!
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by brucemoose2
I don't know why people are surprised by getting 31 mpg w/ 4.10s. Personally, my MN6 w/ 3.42s gets 33-36 mpg for all-highway driving. Automatic cars typically don't do nearly as well.

Because it is nearly impossible to get 36 mpg on a STOCK C5 with stock gearing. I guess you could get close on a stock C5 if you were traveling 55 mph on the highway, which nobody does. Sorry, not with 4:10's.
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Traveling at 70 mph average with no traffic I've done 31 mpg between Northern NJ and Washington DC. I verified it a couple of time. Both on the way there and on the way back (I used to have a girl friend who lived there so I made the trip almost weekly). These are things that I used to do to keep myself entertained on those trips .

If you have an automatic, then it's a different story.

Whether you believe it or not that's what I got. I've heard the same from others. I didn't believe it myself till I got the same results.

6th gear is so steep that the gears really don’t raise the rpms that much, and actually makes the gear more useable.

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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Max@Cartek
Traveling at 70 mph average with no traffic I've done 31 mpg between Northern NJ and Washington DC. I verified it a couple of time. Both on the way there and on the way back (I used to have a girl friend who lived there so I made the trip almost weekly). These are things that I used to do to keep myself entertained on those trips .

If you have an automatic, then it's a different story.

Whether you believe it or not that's what I got. I've heard the same from others. I didn't believe it myself till I got the same results.

6th gear is so steep that the gears really don’t raise the rpms that much, and actually makes the gear more useable.

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Well, I have also driven an MN6 with 4.10's at 70mph, and certainly did not get 31+ mpg.
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My A4 used to average 29mpg on the parkway with 3.73's, so it could be possible with 4.10's in a MN6.
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Originally Posted by Max@Cartek
6th gear is so steep that the gears really don’t raise the rpms that much, and actually makes the gear more useable.

Max
I'm interested in hearing the difference in cruise RPM at 70. If I remember right I was cruising at like 1500ish at 70... like 1700 aroung 77-78 where I normally cruise. I'm guessing 2200 at the same speed with 4.10's?

I'm thinking right now 3.73's might be too small of a step to justify cost, and 4.10's might be questionbly steep. 3.90's seem to be a good compromise. Somebody prove me wrong! lol

I'm thinking the heads and intake might hurt me more in mpg right now. I'm getting 33-34 at 78 with the A/C on. Mileage is also the reason I'm afraid of stepping up a little from the 226/230 thats in the car now.

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Originally Posted by dhirocz
I'm interested in hearing the difference in cruise RPM at 70. If I remember right I was cruising at like 1500ish at 70... like 1700 aroung 77-78 where I normally cruise. I'm guessing 2200 at the same speed with 4.10's?

I'm thinking right now 3.73's might be too small of a step to justify cost, and 4.10's might be questionbly steep. 3.90's seem to be a good compromise. Somebody prove me wrong! lol

I'm thinking the heads and intake might hurt me more in mpg right now. I'm getting 33-34 at 78 with the A/C on. Mileage is also the reason I'm afraid of stepping up a little from the 226/230 thats in the car now.

-Dave
IMO if you are going for gears..especially in a 6 spd go for the 4.10's..

Chuck CoW installed mine and I cant seem to wipe this S%$*T eating grin off of my face...mileage?..havent noticed a significant difference...fun to driveness (a new word)....through the roof!!!
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chuck did mine, and man was he right. oh, and his tune is awesome!
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chuck did mine, and man was he right. oh, and his tune is awesome!
Great to hear....btw......1850 RPM's cruising in 6th at 70 MPH..
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dont want to say how fast i`m going in 6th
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