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Old May 15, 2007 | 12:19 PM
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Currently own 99 coupe with stock everything 3:15 rear.
I am going to replace complete rear and rebuild or replace automatic.
Will 3:42 gears be ok or should I consider another ratio? I drive this car 69 mi. each way to work 4 days a week. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Old May 15, 2007 | 05:17 PM
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I've been asking about this kind of thing too, and I posted a thread last week about gears and a TC. The consensus from actual vendors who install these things is that a 3.42, and a 3000 TC is about ideal for most people, giving you better torque and acceleration, yet maintaining driveablity.Some people want to go higher, but with an A4, I'm not sure it is a good idea especially if it is your DD. I'm saving my money, and will probably get the 3.42's, with a 3000TC sometime this summer. However, you may not notice that much difference though between a 3.15, and a 3.42 from what I've read here.Are you sure you've got a 3.15, since you say the car is stock? I thought the stock A4 was a 2.73, unless it was ordered with an optional 3.15.
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Old May 15, 2007 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Ralphyboy
I've been asking about this kind of thing too, and I posted a thread last week about gears and a TC. The consensus from actual vendors who install these things is that a 3.42, and a 3000 TC is about ideal for most people, giving you better torque and acceleration, yet maintaining driveablity.Some people want to go higher, but with an A4, I'm not sure it is a good idea especially if it is your DD. I'm saving my money, and will probably get the 3.42's, with a 3000TC sometime this summer. However, you may not notice that much difference though between a 3.15, and a 3.42 from what I've read here.Are you sure you've got a 3.15, since you say the car is stock? I thought the stock A4 was a 2.73, unless it was ordered with an optional 3.15.
I'm not sure about the '99 models, but I do know that on later years, the 3:15's were offered as a performance option on A4's over the 2:73's.
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Old May 15, 2007 | 10:43 PM
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since you say the car is stock?
many people (including myself) use the word "stock" to mean "un-modded".
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Old May 16, 2007 | 08:01 AM
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We are right in your backyard....give us a call & we will discuss in-depth your options & the plusses & minuses. You can also drive our shop C5 with 3:42's and a Yank TC to see if that is what you want to achieve. 813-628-0080 www.RevXtreme.com
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Old May 16, 2007 | 09:07 AM
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I like 3.73s myself. If it were me driving that much (and I'm assuming highway) though, I would probably want to keep the 3.15s. Are you planning to stick with the stock converter or no? You might consider a small converter and keeping (or refreshing) your 3.15s, kinda depends on what you are trying to accomplish with the gear change.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 09:23 AM
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I developed a chatter when pulling out of a driveway or parking space after the car is parked for an hour or so. I am assuming with the 111k mi on the tranny and the rear it might just be time to replace.
The fluid and additive change did not improve things and actually is more noticeable now. The reason I am looking at the 3:42 is because a new rear is available to me for 1300.00 and I figured i probably couldn't get it repaired for that much.The tranny needs to be gone through also as it sometimes takes more time going from 1st to 2nd and then will hit really hard. I am open to rebuilding and will explore costs. I would like a little more oomph out of it if possible.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 10:14 AM
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I too will be going to 3.42's in the very near future with my Vette from 3.15's!

With the 3.15's your getting pretty good gas mileage! With the 3.42's it willl not be a drastic change but when you go over 3.42's and the distance you are driving you will suffer with gas mileage!

The 3.42's will give your Vette some serious POP! Here is a chart that was sent to me for the RPM'd VS. GEAR Ratio's so you can see where you will be at cruising speeds!
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Matts got it right. The 3.73's are to much for the higway....3.42's give the best of both worlds w/out the fuel mileage suffering much. A 3200 stal TC will shave .5-.7 seconds off your 1/4 mile times vs a stock TC. You will need to add a tranny cooler as well.
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Originally Posted by TLewis4095
Matts got it right. The 3.73's are to much for the higway....3.42's give the best of both worlds w/out the fuel mileage suffering much. A 3200 stal TC will shave .5-.7 seconds off your 1/4 mile times vs a stock TC. You will need to add a tranny cooler as well.
This seems to be good advice, and since his shop is close to you, and he has a C5 with this setup, what have you got to lose? Take a visit, go for a ride, and see what suits you. It seems like a no brainer to me.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by NEVERL8C5
Currently own 99 coupe with stock everything 3:15 rear.
I am going to replace complete rear and rebuild or replace automatic.
Will 3:42 gears be ok or should I consider another ratio? I drive this car 69 mi. each way to work 4 days a week. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
I have 3.42 w/3000 stall and it is a very good combination. Going any higher my scarifice some fuel economy with the 140mile round trip commute you have.

EDIT: Stock means as it left the factory, an A4 w/3.15's is still stock

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Old May 16, 2007 | 05:33 PM
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I did it, and love it.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 05:39 PM
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Went from 3.15 to 3.42. Love um . You wont be sorry.
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with the A4, the 3.42 - in first gear - has the same overall ratio as the C5 Z06 trannies first gear overall ratio.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 11:53 PM
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Went from 3.15 to 3.42. Love um . You wont be sorry.
Love my 3.42
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Old May 17, 2007 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Mercury
with the A4, the 3.42 - in first gear - has the same overall ratio as the C5 Z06 trannies first gear overall ratio.
That's what I was gonna say. The C5 Z06's get great gas mileage (if that is what you were concerned about when you were saying you DD your car) on the 3.42 rear end. 3.73 might be a little much if your not into racing and such. I know a 3.42 rear end almost makes it feel like a different car!
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Old May 17, 2007 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by LKGRenegade22
The C5 Z06's get great gas mileage (if that is what you were concerned about when you were saying you DD your car) on the 3.42 rear end.
But keep in mind the overall ratio is different (and numerically higher) for auto and stick configurations.

Here's overall ratios in each gear for each type tansmission (ignoring TC slop for the auto):

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   Trans    2.73    3.15    3.42    3.73    3.90    4.10
--------------------------( A4 )---------------------------
    3.06    8.35    9.64   10.47   11.41   11.93   12.55
    1.62    4.42    5.10    5.54    6.04    6.32    6.64
    1.00    2.73    3.15    3.42    3.73    3.90    4.10
    0.70    1.91    2.20    2.39    2.61    2.73    2.87
--------------------------( MN6 )--------------------------
    2.66    7.26    8.38    9.10    9.92   10.37   10.91
    1.78    4.86    5.61    6.09    6.64    6.94    7.30
    1.30    3.55    4.09    4.45    4.85    5.07    5.33
    1.00    2.73    3.15    3.42    3.73    3.90    4.10
    0.74    2.02    2.33    2.53    2.76    2.89    3.03
    0.50    1.36    1.57    1.71    1.86    1.95    2.05
--------------------------( M12 )--------------------------
    2.97    8.11    9.36   10.16   11.08   11.58   12.18
    2.07    5.65    6.52    7.08    7.72    8.07    8.49
    1.43    3.90    4.50    4.89    5.33    5.58    5.86
    1.00    2.73    3.15    3.42    3.73    3.90    4.10
    0.84    2.29    2.65    2.87    3.13    3.28    3.44
    0.56    1.53    1.76    1.92    2.09    2.18    2.30
FWIW, I see right around an 18-20% hit in highway mileage w/ the 3.73s relative to 3.15s. That's right at what I expected. The 3.42s will about half that.
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Old May 17, 2007 | 04:35 PM
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F.Y.I. The RPO code for 2.73 ratio is GU2, 3.15 ratio is G90. Tag is on the inside of glovebox door.
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Old May 18, 2007 | 06:51 AM
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Thanks everyone for the input I am having conversation with Revextreme about costs and options.I should be going with the 3:42 but am wondering if the TC change is necessary,can it be left stock?.I will have the tranny rebuilt at the same time.I don't race this car as I have an ElCamino for the 1/4 mile dash. FYI Revextreme worked on my car last year and they do run a nice shop.
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Old May 18, 2007 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by NEVERL8C5
Thanks everyone for the input I am having conversation with Revextreme about costs and options.I should be going with the 3:42 but am wondering if the TC change is necessary,can it be left stock?.I will have the tranny rebuilt at the same time.I don't race this car as I have an ElCamino for the 1/4 mile dash. FYI Revextreme worked on my car last year and they do run a nice shop.
If you don't race it, it is not imperative. It will help the car launch harder. See if you can find some people with and w/o and go for a ride. The problem with not doing the converter is if you change your mind later, you have to pay for all the labor again.
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