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Old May 19, 2007 | 01:41 PM
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If had to choose a cam for this setup, what would it be? I'm thinking
228/232 on a 112LSA or there about.

If you choose a cam > 230 degrees intake duration, please state your theory for this. What should the spread be on the intake/exh durations for these heads? I do plan to run a long tube header.

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A couple of questions, first. Do you have a 427, or a 346? What are your goals for your car? I have the exact combo you enquire about, so can probably give you an informed opinion.
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A couple of questions, first. Do you have a 427, or a 346? What are your goals for your car? I have the exact combo you enquire about, so can probably give you an informed opinion.

I am just starting to modify a 02 Z06. 0z 700 clutch on the way and will be using halltech stinger. Next up is heads/cam/exhaust or maybe just cam/headers. The engine is the stock 346. The 427 was my Mustang. I want max power < 6500rpm. Car is weekend warrior only. It will get drag raced but is a street car. Probably have cats.

I am particulary interested to know of comparions between say a
224/228 on a 112 COMP CAM and a 232/240 112 COMP CAM.
I suspect the extra duration is a waste, but would love to hear about real time usage.

I have used TFS heads on my Mustang and they were serious power makers. Can't wait to find out if the LS versions are worth it.
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Old May 19, 2007 | 04:52 PM
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I have been running the TFS heads for about 4000 miles now and I have been very happy with their performance. I also have a comp cam from Vengeance that is a 224/228 on a 113lsa. It made 470 whp with all of the supporting mods + a ported Fast 90/90. I think you will be very happy if you go this route. The car makes good power down low but it really wakes up at about 3500.

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Which head gaskets did you use? Did you have a fit problem at all w/stock valve covers, TFS and Harland Sharp Roller Rockers? Wonder what the FAST intake gained. Also, what CC head is yours? I'm thinking I want a smaller chamber to increase compression.
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I am really not sure what gaskets were used but I know the final CR came to 11.4:1. I did not do the install myself but I know there was significant grinding done on the valve covers to make them fit. Yes, I have the Harland Sharp RRs. The heads are 64cc chambers but a lot of the guys making 500+rwhp had the 59cc chambers. A similar car to mine made 25whp at peak and about 20whp throughout the band with the Fast 90/90 when installed on the dyno. It was pretty impressive.
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How many degrees advance ground in the cam and is it dialed straight up?
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electronbluec5,

Ok, nuff said. I ordered up the TFS HEADS + CAM + HS RR.
I'll post a 1/4 MPH when avail.
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Hello--It says you are from Calif ----Do you have tpoass Smog ??? If so that will really dictate what you can run for a camshaft---The cam you've chosen probably will not pass---I am in Calif also--I passed with a .221/.221 @ 114---But I think you could go a bit larger and still pass--say around a .224-228 @ 114---I don't think a 112 LSA will pass at all-But if you aren't concerned with smog--them Id use the method of study and pick a camshaft for your combunation--then go 1 bigger !!!
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Hello--It says you are from Calif ----Do you have tpoass Smog ??? If so that will really dictate what you can run for a camshaft---The cam you've chosen probably will not pass---I am in Calif also--I passed with a .221/.221 @ 114---But I think you could go a bit larger and still pass--say around a .224-228 @ 114---I don't think a 112 LSA will pass at all-But if you aren't concerned with smog--them Id use the method of study and pick a camshaft for your combunation--then go 1 bigger !!!
The cam I will be using probably won't be good for the sniffa if you know what I mean. Come smog time, I'll do some "work" to clean things up. Go 1 bigger,
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I did do all my own installation, and I used GM MLS gaskets, and my heads were shaved to 61cc chambers. I didn't have any problems with the HS rocker arms, and stock valve covers. No grinding. My final SCR was 10.95-1 and the DCR was 8.5-1 with my Crane cam@ 228/232 @112+5, and .600/.600 lift. As you probably know, the design of the TFS heads allows more PTV clearance. I have lots of power down low, and midrange is amazing. I didn't care too much about peak power, but this combo screams all the way to 7000, so I guess I'm not missing too much. We only get 92 oct. here, but the tuner said theres no indication of any KR. Traction, however has become a problem.
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Originally Posted by zeevette
I did do all my own installation, and I used GM MLS gaskets, and my heads were shaved to 61cc chambers. I didn't have any problems with the HS rocker arms, and stock valve covers. No grinding. My final SCR was 10.95-1 and the DCR was 8.5-1 with my Crane cam@ 228/232 @112+5, and .600/.600 lift. As you probably know, the design of the TFS heads allows more PTV clearance. I have lots of power down low, and midrange is amazing. I didn't care too much about peak power, but this combo screams all the way to 7000, so I guess I'm not missing too much. We only get 92 oct. here, but the tuner said theres no indication of any KR. Traction, however has become a problem.
My setup will be similar w/GM gaskets, 61cc heads, and a 112 lobe. How bad was it to drop the steering rack?
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Originally Posted by 427CPE
My setup will be similar w/GM gaskets, 61cc heads, and a 112 lobe. How bad was it to drop the steering rack?

Just alot of work, but not too bad. A couple of skinned knuckles, as per my usual.


Oh yeah, be careful of the aluminum crossmember; mine has sharp edges from metal flashings in the castings.
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