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Old May 21, 2007 | 01:28 AM
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I just bought a 98' vette and the check engine light came on and stayed on. The system gave me the following codes. Should I not worry about them? The previous owner put headers on the car and this may jack with sensors...

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P0133 Heater Oxygen Sensor -Slow Response Bank 1Sensor 1
P0153 Heater oxgen Senor-Slow Response Bank2Sensor 1

Any suggestions. Should I service or leave alone for Now?
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Old May 21, 2007 | 01:29 AM
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you likely need that serviced - take it in.\

$80 or so for the part + labor
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Old May 21, 2007 | 01:32 AM
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Thanks.

Do you think it comes from the fact the previous owner put headers/exhaust on it or not related?
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Old May 21, 2007 | 04:28 AM
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Could be a few things, all related to the headers...

* Melted O2 wires (quite possible if the wires have come into contact with the headers)
* Bad O2 sensors (leaded gas will do this)
* Exhaust leak (before the O2 sensor bung)

Melted O2 wires or an exhaust leak are the most likely causes, IMHO.



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Old May 21, 2007 | 10:36 AM
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Yeah, I'd put my $$ on melted O2 sensor wires.
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Originally Posted by whiteknights
I just bought a 98' vette and the check engine light came on and stayed on. The system gave me the following codes. Should I not worry about them? The previous owner put headers on the car and this may jack with sensors...

The codes are:

P0133 Heater Oxygen Sensor -Slow Response Bank 1Sensor 1
P0153 Heater oxgen Senor-Slow Response Bank2Sensor 1

Any suggestions. Should I service or leave alone for Now?
Most likely you have high flow cats. Best to get the rear O2 codes edited out by a tuner.

Won't hurt to drive the car either way.
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Old May 21, 2007 | 09:24 PM
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It WILL hurt the car to drive with a dead front O2, fuel trims will get WAY out of line. Sensor #1 refers to the front and has nothing to do with high flow vs regular cats.

Disregard FRCTony's post. He was thinking you had a sensor #2 issue.

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Doh, yep I was thinking rears....

But it still won't hurt anything.
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Originally Posted by FRCTony
Doh, yep I was thinking rears....

But it still won't hurt anything.
Umm yes, driving with dead FRONT 02's can darn sure hurt things....
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Originally Posted by eurospec1
Umm yes, driving with dead FRONT 02's can darn sure hurt things....
What will it hurt?
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What will it hurt?
The car won't know what AFR it is running, thus it could be dangerously lean, or pig rich. I suspect the computer will dump fuel into the engine as a result, which will rob power. However, it could stay running really lean and melt pistons.



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Old May 22, 2007 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Sorny
The car won't know what AFR it is running, thus it could be dangerously lean, or pig rich. I suspect the computer will dump fuel into the engine as a result, which will rob power. However, it could stay running really lean and melt pistons.



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Or it could be smart enough to know that the O2 sensor is not switching and run open loop speed density.

There are more than a few folks running without O2 sensors.
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