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Old May 27, 2007 | 11:02 AM
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I have done my search for an answer and didn't find any.

Can someone point me to step by step instructions for removing the K harness?

My car is a recently purchased 02 coupe 6 speed.

The paperwork shows that the recall was done, but it only references 04006, it doesn't say whether A, B or C versions were done. So I don't know if it was just reprogrammed or whether it has the K harness. From reading the sticky, I assume it was just reprogrammed.

I have orange, purple black and green wires coming down from the steering wheel on the left side, pretty much parallel with the column. They plug into a black connector on the metal bar under the knee bolster. On the other side of this connector is white, black, purple and green wires which disappear behind the dash.

I do not know if I have the K harness, I don't know if I'd recognize it or not.

I have installed the CLB from CofH, but I understand that I should remove the K harness. Does someone have instructions on how to do that? I've posted this question in the sticky above but haven't had an answer. Thanks all!
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Old May 28, 2007 | 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Its PEWTER
I have done my search for an answer and didn't find any.

Can someone point me to step by step instructions for removing the K harness?

My car is a recently purchased 02 coupe 6 speed.

The paperwork shows that the recall was done, but it only references 04006, it doesn't say whether A, B or C versions were done. So I don't know if it was just reprogrammed or whether it has the K harness. From reading the sticky, I assume it was just reprogrammed.

I have orange, purple black and green wires coming down from the steering wheel on the left side, pretty much parallel with the column. They plug into a black connector on the metal bar under the knee bolster. On the other side of this connector is white, black, purple and green wires which disappear behind the dash.

I do not know if I have the K harness, I don't know if I'd recognize it or not.

I have installed the CLB from CofH, but I understand that I should remove the K harness. Does someone have instructions on how to do that? I've posted this question in the sticky above but haven't had an answer. Thanks all!
The K Harness relay should be tie wrapped to the left side of your steering column. If you've installed a CLB into the connector located on the horizontal metal bar just to the right of your steering column, then you really don't have to worry about the K Harness. Since the wires coming into the connector on the right side of the steering column are purple, white, green, black, there is an additional relay installed under the passenger footwell just above the BCM. You might find you need to remove it and bypass it. There is one confusing thing in your writeup. You said the steering column lock harness (orange, purple, green, black) is plugged into the connector to the right of your steering column to which you have purple, white, green, black. I assume this is what you had BEFORE you installed your CLB.
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Old May 28, 2007 | 12:51 AM
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I have installed the CLB from CofH, but I understand that I should remove the K harness. Does someone have instructions on how to do that? I've posted this question in the sticky above but haven't had an answer. Thanks all!
I was just looking at the TSB (#04006C) for the latest column lock recall. Here's the link. If you read through it you might be able to determine if it was done to your car.

http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/...t.php?attId=18

If you read the instructions carefully, it sounds like the relay harness was just put in series between the column lock mechanism and the connector that would normally connect where the CLB is now plugged into.

I don't quite understand what this relay harness was all about (GMs version of a CLB?) since there was talk in the TSB of column lock and relay synchronization that had to take place. Can anyone explain the whole reason behind GM's relay harness in the recall?

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Old May 28, 2007 | 05:36 PM
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TTT. I have similar question.
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Old May 29, 2007 | 01:43 AM
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The K Harness was GM's version of the CLB..unfortunately it is no more reliable than the column lock motor.
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Old May 29, 2007 | 07:00 AM
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There is one confusing thing in your writeup. You said the steering column lock harness (orange, purple, green, black) is plugged into the connector to the right of your steering column to which you have purple, white, green, black. I assume this is what you had BEFORE you installed your CLB.
You are correct, this IS what I had before I installed the CLB. The CLB is now plugged into the the black connector on the metal bar. There are white, black, purple, and green wires coming out of this connector, running away from the CLB and going under the dash.

So - Do I need to worry about removing the K harness, or just leave it?

Thanks for your help with this confusing issue.
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Old May 29, 2007 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Its PEWTER
You are correct, this IS what I had before I installed the CLB. The CLB is now plugged into the the black connector on the metal bar. There are white, black, purple, and green wires coming out of this connector, running away from the CLB and going under the dash.

So - Do I need to worry about removing the K harness, or just leave it?

Thanks for your help with this confusing issue.
I removed the K-Harness before I installed the CLB on my 2000 A4. Before the CLB installation, I had a K-Harness failure, that first gave me the 'remove key, wait 10 seconds' message, then finally, it went to the kill engine after putting it in drive mode. I ordered the CLB, and to use the car until the CLB arrived, I simply went back in under the dash, and removed the K-Harness, and the car started and ran just fine, with no problems. When the CLB arrived, I went back in under the dash, and installed the CLB, and haven't had any problems since doing this installation last year.
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Originally Posted by Its PEWTER
You are correct, this IS what I had before I installed the CLB. The CLB is now plugged into the the black connector on the metal bar. There are white, black, purple, and green wires coming out of this connector, running away from the CLB and going under the dash.

So - Do I need to worry about removing the K harness, or just leave it?

Thanks for your help with this confusing issue.
Just done mine.
If you have a white wire there is a modification relay (not the K harness) in the passenger foot well. This needs to be unplugged and the white wire (relay pin 30) joined to the orange wire (relay pin 87) if the CLB doesn't work reliably, I did mine anyway. All this information is in the above sticky.
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Can anyone describe how to remove the K harness?

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Old May 30, 2007 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Its PEWTER

Can anyone describe how to remove the K harness?

Thanks.
I think you'll find that they were only fitted to domestic autos. It's all in that sticky.
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 11:06 AM
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I am a little frustrated with this issue also.

While I am not having any CL problems. I want to avoid any in the future. The general consensus of the CLB stickies is to install a CLB for peace of mind. But after reading the entire 600+ posts in the stickies yesterday, it seems the later 04 corvettes were more than a simple CLB installation. For instance since I have a 04 I probably have a K harness. The K harness is a factory CLB, but my CL still works. While many posts in the sticky said the K harness is unreliable and should be replaced with a CLB, none of them actually identified what the K harness looked like or where exactly it was located. Some posts indicated that the K harness was installed if the connector under the knee bolster and had a white wire coming from it. While others indicater it is under the dash on the passengers side.

I guess the question is 1) how do you determine if your car has a K harness, by operational check or inspection, 2) Where is the K harness and should you remove it if you install a CLB.

Thanks in Advance.

PS with a late production (June 04) C5 the sticky seems to indicate that installing a CLB as typically described, may cause more problems than it solves.

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