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Old Oct 23, 2001 | 03:22 PM
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Claiming 6 - 8% hp gain. For my 2001 Z06 with 385 hp that works out to a 23 - 30 hp gain. Somehow that seems a little high for $299. The TPIS headers claim a 15 hp gain and while thats a lot more believeable, I'm even skeptical about that.

http://www.ecklers.com/product.asp?p...dept%5Fid=1775

With Armor coat -
http://www.ecklers.com/product.asp?p...dept%5Fid=1775

Here's another one for under $500 -
http://www.ecklers.com/product.asp?p...dept%5Fid=1775

Now I understand that they are shortys, but that is still less than HALF the B & B price. That small amount of stainless steel can't make up the difference.

The Pace Setters are 1 5/8" while the BBK are 1 3/4" so I am more inclined to look at the BBK.

Does anyone have any experience with these headers?

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Old Oct 23, 2001 | 04:12 PM
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That's the first I've heard of the BBK headers for the C5. At $499, the price is right. Could be some headers in my future.
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Old Oct 23, 2001 | 04:27 PM
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Are the BBK Headers shorties or longtubes???? Those are great prices!!!!


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Old Oct 23, 2001 | 04:39 PM
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I think the BBK's are shorties b/c it says "bolt-on" installation.
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Old Oct 23, 2001 | 05:17 PM
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The BBKs are shorties. I was thinking of going with a set of BBKs but I decided not to after I talked to my mechanic (IMHO a very good mechanic who will do all the work on my car) He said he wouldn't put a set of MAC or BBK anything on his car even if it was free. He said they just don't make quality parts. IMHO its silly to pay so much for a car and put cheap parts on it. I think I'm going to save the extra $$$ for the TPIS long tubes. But if anyone does choose to go with a set of BBKs let me know how they work. I haven't heard anything on the Pacesetters but I'm sure they don't make anywhere near the HP they claim.

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Old Oct 23, 2001 | 05:21 PM
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You are probably right about not getting them, although lately TPIS aren't any better with them cracking and stuff.
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While I don't know anything abou these cheap headers, the guy I have installing my system told me to avoid the TPIS like the plague. They crack and they do not pay the labor when they have to be repaired.

Has anyone actually installed these headers?
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TTT - Come on guys - hasn't anyone installed these?
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I see "TTT" in some of these threads. What does this mean? :confused:
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TO THE TOP=TTT :)
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We install BBK shorties on Mustangs. The fitment seems okay on them.
Pace Setters are junk!
Im not sure I would install BBKs on a vette though.
6-8 percent increase? NO WAY...already BSing so thats not a good sign.

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