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Old Oct 28, 2001 | 08:29 PM
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I posted yesterday about doing a 360 with my 01 vert, showing off for a kid. I later realized that I had the car in comp mode. Why did'nt AH come on? I thought that in comp mode you just disabled traction control but that AH was still in place. If that's the case, I should not have been able to do a 360 in comp mode. Any theory's or explanations...

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Old Oct 28, 2001 | 08:52 PM
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I think in Competion Mode, traction control and active handling are both disabled.
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Old Oct 28, 2001 | 08:55 PM
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No, comp mode only disables traction control. How fast were you going? I've heard (and found out the hard way) that AH doesn't come on if you're going relatively slow. I did a 270 turning left from a parking lot once and AH didn't kick on. Someone said you have to be going faster.
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No, comp mode only disables traction control. How fast were you going? I've heard (and found out the hard way) that AH doesn't come on if you're going relatively slow. I did a 270 turning left from a parking lot once and AH didn't kick on. Someone said you have to be going faster.
I agree NetJunkie, everthing I've heard says comp mode=disable traction control only. I wasn't going fast, just doing donuts in a parking lot.

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Old Oct 28, 2001 | 09:34 PM
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I've never done a doughnut in my car, but I would think in order to spin it around real good you would turn the wheel to the lock in one direction and stomp on the gas. Wouldn't active handling know that you wanted to go hard left or right and just let you since the nose of the car is going where you are pointing it too? Just my theory, I won't even stick to it... lol :D
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Old Oct 28, 2001 | 09:44 PM
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I've never done a doughnut in my car, but I would think in order to spin it around real good you would turn the wheel to the lock in one direction and stomp on the gas. Wouldn't active handling know that you wanted to go hard left or right and just let you since the nose of the car is going where you are pointing it too? Just my theory, I won't even stick to it... lol :D
That theory sounds good to me SAXN8R!
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Old Oct 28, 2001 | 09:50 PM
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NetJunkie Thanks for setting me straight.
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Active Handeling may be good, but it will not over ride the laws of physics. :nono:
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Old Oct 28, 2001 | 10:09 PM
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Active Handeling may be good, but it will not over ride the laws of physics. :nono:
I agree Redhot. But when both AH and TC are on, I cannot do a 360, the car just bogs. So that kinda overrides physics. Still, AH is supposed to be enabled with TC off in comp mode, so the car should start to spin and then bog once AH kicks in, should'nt it?
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Old Oct 28, 2001 | 11:59 PM
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It won't bog with AH on and TC off. Traction Control is what makes it bog. AH only controls the ABS system.
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Old Oct 29, 2001 | 12:11 AM
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Actually on the 2000 version of AH you can get some throttle retard if if you get a serious amount of slip.

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Old Oct 29, 2001 | 12:16 PM
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In Competition Mode, TC is disabled and AH remains active. It is my understanding, that while in competititve mode, the AH system will allow for a bit more yaw before engaging to allow for a bit more enthusiastic presentation of the car to a corner. I remember reading this about the AH system on my '99; however, I am not certain if this feature was carried to the second generation AH system in my '01. My driving style tends to engage the AH more so under braking in understeering conditions; as opposed to, taming oversteer through the corner. I have noticed the AH engaging when I have induced oversteer through trail braking a corner, but it is difficult for me to tell if the system is any more sensitive in either mode. In any case, the true fun appears with all systems turned off.
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Old Oct 29, 2001 | 12:54 PM
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Another take on AH is that to make a correction its primary response is to brake the outside front wheel for a fishtail under power. Somebody who understands physics better than I can guess if that will actually plant that tire and help with a donut? I do know that the system is supposed to work at very low speeds, for example on ice at slow speed so that should not be the issue. In search of better answer will post if it come in.
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Old Oct 29, 2001 | 07:02 PM
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ive owned a2000 vert and in comp mode i coulndt make the car drift in a fast turn. on my 02 i can bring the rear end out as much as i want as fast as i want as long as i want thought ah was no good.reading engineering thread on chevy vette site i think its possible because ah2 doesnt come on as long as your in control of the slide i think sensors in steering tell computer if driver is in control or if he needs help.this is just my guess. plan to ask service on next visit.if i jerk wheel hard and dont correct ah does come on but it seems to only on sudden moves :cheers:
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Actually on the 2000 version of AH you can get some throttle retard if if you get a serious amount of slip.
And thats precisely my point. Doing a 360 amounts to a serious amount of slip. AH should either do some throttle retard or apply braking presure to the left rear wheel (if spinning to the right).
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