What 18" drag radial options are there ?
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Drifting
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Well I doubt you would see wrinkle on a 315/35/17 mounted on a 9.5" rim either. I'm just stating that they can wrinkle some in the in the higher profile sizes like 50-60 series. Just a shame we can't fit small rims on the back.
http://promediapub.com/filehost/file...DRWKOLIVAS.jpg
http://www.dragracingonline.com/race...dial-Winne.jpg
http://www.hoosiertire.com/nhra9295.HTM
http://www.pscaracing.com/images/wfwscase.jpg
http://www.freewebs.com/outlawdragradial/
http://content.godragracing.com/drwall1024.jpg
http://www.wolferacecraft.com/images...y/bdaddy12.jpg
http://www.dragracingonline.com/race...3/clemmons.jpg
http://promediapub.com/filehost/file...DRWKOLIVAS.jpg
http://www.dragracingonline.com/race...dial-Winne.jpg
http://www.hoosiertire.com/nhra9295.HTM
http://www.pscaracing.com/images/wfwscase.jpg
http://www.freewebs.com/outlawdragradial/
http://content.godragracing.com/drwall1024.jpg
http://www.wolferacecraft.com/images...y/bdaddy12.jpg
http://www.dragracingonline.com/race...3/clemmons.jpg
Last edited by slow ride; Jul 2, 2007 at 08:07 PM.
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slow ride, pics at the links seem to be bias-ply slicks rather than drag radials.
I've run the BFG 315.35.17 on 12" wide CCWs and they produce the same 60' as on 9.5" wheel.
There is a lot about these cars and the techniques of fast times that are counterintuitive. That's why I do personal R&D.
Ranger
I've run the BFG 315.35.17 on 12" wide CCWs and they produce the same 60' as on 9.5" wheel.
There is a lot about these cars and the techniques of fast times that are counterintuitive. That's why I do personal R&D.
Ranger
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They are all radial tires except the link with multiple car pictures. All pictures are from fast radial tire classes. They are very large tires with a lot of sidewall so it really shows some flex, but still radial tires. These are clearly MT dr's.
http://content.godragracing.com/drwall1024.jpg
I'm not trying to be rude or put down any of your acomplishments as I have asked for your suggestions on other topics. You can drive these cars better than most if not all others.
I'm just stating a DR can wrinkle SOME if not just a little. While not apparent in most c5 sizes I would bet they are still taking some of the shock out of the launch over a good handeling street tire with a firm sidewall. Not nearly the cushion/wrinkle of a bias ply tire though.
http://content.godragracing.com/drwall1024.jpg
I'm not trying to be rude or put down any of your acomplishments as I have asked for your suggestions on other topics. You can drive these cars better than most if not all others.
I'm just stating a DR can wrinkle SOME if not just a little. While not apparent in most c5 sizes I would bet they are still taking some of the shock out of the launch over a good handeling street tire with a firm sidewall. Not nearly the cushion/wrinkle of a bias ply tire though.
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They are all radial tires except the link with multiple car pictures. All pictures are from fast radial tire classes. They are very large tires with a lot of sidewall so it really shows some flex, but still radial tires. These are clearly MT dr's.
http://content.godragracing.com/drwall1024.jpg
I'm not trying to be rude or put down any of your acomplishments as I have asked for your suggestions on other topics. You can drive these cars better than most if not all others. I'm just stating a DR can wrinkle SOME if not just a little. While not apparent in most c5 sizes I would bet they are still taking some of the shock out of the launch over a good handeling street tire with a firm sidewall. Not nearly the cushion/wrinkle of a bias ply tire though.
http://content.godragracing.com/drwall1024.jpg
I'm not trying to be rude or put down any of your acomplishments as I have asked for your suggestions on other topics. You can drive these cars better than most if not all others.
I'm just stating a DR can wrinkle SOME if not just a little. While not apparent in most c5 sizes I would bet they are still taking some of the shock out of the launch over a good handeling street tire with a firm sidewall. Not nearly the cushion/wrinkle of a bias ply tire though.Ranger
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Who said anything about street car? I origionally said a dr can flex some thats it. Never said it was apparant on a c5 of any other stick or automatic street car(which everyone has a different view on what one is).
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Ranger...
Have you seen the new Hoosier Drag Radial yet?
Wrinkling will be the order of the day and an M/T street radial can wrinkle as well....more seen in the serious classes (with taller sidewalls) that punish those tires to eight second quarter mile times. Sure a bias ply slick (or cheater slick) will wrinkle more, but the slightly stiffer radial construction allows a DOT drag radial to trap better MPH and not "float" as much on the big end which is a bonus when trap speeds start to see in excess of 140 MPH....
Bottom line is the point I was trying to make is the smaller the rim (and taller the sidewall) the better chances you have of a sticky tire conforming and wrinkling (to some extent) to a well prepped track leaving the line....A 16" rim is even better than a 17", but a 16" rim wont clear my 13" rotors and Wilwood brakes.
The new Hoosier is bad to the bone and looks like a serious contender....you need to check one out if you haven't already.
Tony
Have you seen the new Hoosier Drag Radial yet?
Wrinkling will be the order of the day and an M/T street radial can wrinkle as well....more seen in the serious classes (with taller sidewalls) that punish those tires to eight second quarter mile times. Sure a bias ply slick (or cheater slick) will wrinkle more, but the slightly stiffer radial construction allows a DOT drag radial to trap better MPH and not "float" as much on the big end which is a bonus when trap speeds start to see in excess of 140 MPH....
Bottom line is the point I was trying to make is the smaller the rim (and taller the sidewall) the better chances you have of a sticky tire conforming and wrinkling (to some extent) to a well prepped track leaving the line....A 16" rim is even better than a 17", but a 16" rim wont clear my 13" rotors and Wilwood brakes.
The new Hoosier is bad to the bone and looks like a serious contender....you need to check one out if you haven't already.
Tony
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We won't be seeing any stock cars, even a current Z06, wrinkling the side walls on a radial tire. Inadequate power, inadequate clutch clamping force.
But when you open the discussion to purpose-built race cars, nothing surprises me. But those cars have little in common with a street car or a stock car.
Ranger
But when you open the discussion to purpose-built race cars, nothing surprises me. But those cars have little in common with a street car or a stock car.
Ranger
