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Old Aug 19, 2007 | 04:29 AM
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Hi there, I have a 2004 C5 ..and recenly I try to change my spark plug, but its not easy like a civic. Anyone know how...
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Hi there, I have a 2004 C5 ..and recenly I try to change my spark plug, but its not easy like a civic. Anyone know how...
It's exactly the same as any other car.
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Old Aug 19, 2007 | 06:49 AM
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I had to buy a swivel socket but other than that it was the same as others. What problem are you having?
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Unlike a ricer a Corvette has a real engine, a V8. This requires that you remove 4 plugs from one side of the car ... THEN WALK TO THE OTHER SIDE and remove the other 4. If you can't figure out how to get them out ... I'd let a professional do it, as you'll never get the new ones in.
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Old Aug 19, 2007 | 11:11 AM
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I'd suggest purchasing this book:



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The swivel thingy works fine..but then your torque specs are off. Smallish hands, and a bit of bloody nuckles should do it. Do one or two a week if you need to. Dont get frustrated and dont rush.
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The only one that is difficult is #7. Move the air valve hoses there and it will be easier. As already suggested, patience and the right length of socket extenders and a swivel, will help a lot.
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Old Aug 19, 2007 | 03:15 PM
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That book sits on top of my service manuals is often referred to! Kidding aside, I think you found some decent advice (aside from comment #2 & #4)
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Originally Posted by bdiddo
That book sits on top of my service manuals is often referred to! Kidding aside, I think you found some decent advice (aside from comment #2 & #4)
Why did you think my comment in post #4 was not helpful ??? I was totally serious when I said he should take it to a professional ..... if he can't figure out how to pull the plugs ... what are the chances he'll use the correct amount of anti-seize compound, or not cross thread, or over-torque a plug and strip the threads out of the head ?? Pulling a plug on a Corvette is a no brainer ... sure #7 is somewhat difficult to get to, but hey, any average "shade tree mechanic" with a standard auto socket set and a swivel can do it pretty easily.
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Originally Posted by MiniSparkC5
Hi there, I have a 2004 C5 ..and recenly I try to change my spark plug, but its not easy like a civic. Anyone know how...
It sounds like you are new to V-8s and especially 3rd Gen small blocks. I suggest that you get a Haynes manual from an autoparts store on your particular car. If you decide to do it yourself, it is not really that hard but will take patience. For the front driver's side you may want to remove the rear alternator support. Common hand tools: 3/8 drive ratchet, spark plug socket, extension and a swivel will do it. (although you can do it without a swivel.)

Someone mentioned torquing but there is no need to torque spark plugs.
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Originally Posted by bdiddo
That book sits on top of my service manuals is often referred to! Kidding aside, I think you found some decent advice (aside from comment #2 & #4)
Am I missing something in your comment? Or was my telling him the Vette is just like any other engine somehow out of line?
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Thanks everyone for trying to help me. I guess I try to pull it out but there was more to do to it.
I can see there are four on each side, but i'm working on one by one
Its my first Vette and I'm new to all of these.
I Just want to know what are the step because when some of you saying about #4 and #7
I have no idea what you people are talking about.

Can someone out help me break it down in STEP...
Iam A GIRL and its not like do this everything...The manual book doesn't show... Please Thank you..
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Lisa,

just wear mechanics, latex, or nitrile (my fav) gloves... and take your time.

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Neither comment was "out of line". I just took it that she was looking for "how to" tips which many of us do here on the forum (i.e. swivel rachet making it easier, best to wear protective gloves, forwarning about no.7, etc.). I am not trying to offensive as I have turned to the forum and received much wanted and needed help.
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Thanks Again Everyone, I just get mad because I can't get the spark plug out. I figure if I go on Corvette Forum there might be some people out there that have a better way to take it out. That's All.... THANK YOU Everyone...
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Originally Posted by MiniSparkC5
Thanks everyone for trying to help me. I guess I try to pull it out but there was more to do to it.
I can see there are four on each side, but i'm working on one by one
Its my first Vette and I'm new to all of these.
I Just want to know what are the step because when some of you saying about #4 and #7
I have no idea what you people are talking about.

Can someone out help me break it down in STEP...
Iam A GIRL and its not like do this everything...The manual book doesn't show... Please Thank you..

OK ... the cylinders are numbered .... picture the engine if as if you were looking down on it from directly above ... the #1, #3, #5, and #7 cylinders are on the left side of the car ... with the #1 cylinder being the forward most, and the #7 being the one at the rear of the engine. If it helps, the #7 is the one closest to the driver.

On the other side, they are, of course .... numbered 2,4,6, and 8 with the forward cylinder being number 2 and the rear being number 8. The #8 is closest to the passenger.

Because the #7 is surrounded by some "plumbing" it is difficult for many of us ham fisted guys to get our hands in there to get to it easily. Smaller hands are a big plus in getting to that plug.

Next post ... step by step instructions .....
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Old Aug 19, 2007 | 06:02 PM
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As vjjack04 said ....

3/8 drive ratchet, spark plug socket, extension and a swivel will do it. (although you can do it without a swivel.)

You won't find a Haynes or other "cheap" manual for the C5 Corvette ... the factory service manual is all that is available, and runs about $150.00 for the set. I see you're relatively close to me, so if you have to, send me an email at sbarnes@covad.net and I can possibly loan you some assistance, or the manual.

Changing the plugs ....

1) Start with the engine COLD. This will make it easier on you not working on something that might burn you, but it is also believed that pulling a plug from a hot engine can cause damage as the cool air suddenly enters the very hot engine.

2) Remove the fuel rail covers ... you've probably already done this ... they are the plastic covers that say CORVETTE on them. Proabably black on your car ... red on a Z06. They just snap onto the fuel rails, so to remove just lift (pull) them up and toward you. There are no screws or bolts that hold them on.

3) Start with the #1 plug, or any plug you feel is EASY to get too ... for the first one make it easy on yourself to figure out how to get them out and in .....

4) Remove the plug wire from the plug ... DO NOT pull on the wire ... pull the cap off the plug .... some people find it helps to try to turn the cap slightly while pulling on the cap.

5) Notice that the plug is "angled" into the head ... you'll need to put the new one in at about the same angle ... so look closely at the angle before you remove it.

6) put the spark plug socket on the end of your extension and (this is how I do it) without the ratchet on it .... hand fit the socket over the plug turning it until you feel the socket fit properly over the plug.

7) Again ... notice the "angle" on the socket and extension. Place the ratchet on the extension and turn the plug counter-clockwise to remove. After the initial force needed to break the plug "loose" ... I prefer to again remove the ratchet and rotate the plug out by hand.

8) Remove plug from socket and insert new plug. What type of plugs are you using ?? Be sure they are gapped correctly, though if you are using the AC/Delco 41-985 plugs they are correctly pre-gapped at .040 inches

9) Place a small amount of anti-seize compound around the thread of the plug. I use a copper based one ... you only need to get the compound on the first 2 or 3 threads closest to the tip. Wipe off any excass, or any that gets on the inside of the plug or the electrode.

10) BY HAND .... WARNING ... THIS IS IMPORTANT ... BY HAND .... NO RATCHET .... JUST THE plug in the SOCKET with the EXTENSION ON IT .... slowly and gently put the plug back into place. You will have to do this by feel ... but the head is shaped so if you approach the engine at the same angle (remember, I said to remember that angle) the plug will be guided back into the hole. Start turning the plug (clockwise) BY HAND until you feel the plug is correctly threaded and is screwing into the head. It should be VERY easy to thread the plug all the way into the engine ... if you fell ANY resistance you probably didn't get the right angle ... but trust me ... if you inseert the plug GENTLY and EASILY it should just thread right on in.

11) BY HAND continue to screw the plug in until you feel it "seat".

12) NOW you can put the ratchet onto the extension and tighten the plug to 11 lb. ft. ... if you don't have a torque wrench just tighten "firmly" until you feel the plug "stop". DO NOT OVERTIGHTEN ... the head is Aluminum and you can "strip" the threads out of the head ... which is EXPENSIVE to fix.

13) replace plug wire on the plug. When all plugs are done snap the fuel rail covers in place.

14 IMPORTANT ... if you skip this step you will suffer DIRE CONSEQUENCES ... after starting engine and listening to it purr ... go inside ... pour yourself a LARGE glass of your favorite beverage ... and then

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Originally Posted by bdiddo
Neither comment was "out of line". I just took it that she was looking for "how to" tips which many of us do here on the forum (i.e. swivel rachet making it easier, best to wear protective gloves, forwarning about no.7, etc.). I am not trying to offensive as I have turned to the forum and received much wanted and needed help.
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Old Aug 19, 2007 | 07:21 PM
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Wow.....Thank you Stephen Barnes...I like how you break things down for me...That was what i was looking for. Easy step... I know other guy try to help me and in the begining they probably thinks I'm some dump young kid who have no idea what "he" talking about...hahaha...
THANK YOU ALL>>>> Okay i'm gonna try to work on it this weekend..and if I run into problem I will BOTHER YOU GUY..agian heehee
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Hey by the way ...what do you guy think about my car... I know its a red girli car...but is it CUTE enough....or I"m just talking CRAZY
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