For many like myself - I only have some air flow mods which I understand are not even taken under consideration when making these programs. So I would expect there to already be "off the shelf" programs for LS1 no mods and 2.73, 3.15, 3.42, or 3.73?

I'm in the software business - I would expect two day turn around on this stuff. What is the problem?

Hello Steve!!!!!!!! You need a business manager. You could be selling several a day - just by making the low mod programs more available. Keep a library of completed setups. Some people would adjust their selections of mod options if the programs were already available.

Same frustration as Mercury Mike.

Plain, essentially stock car, wants copy of already written program - money burning hole in pocket - no releif in site for weeks. Something wrong with this picture.

 

Add me to the list of the frustrsted--I've been waiting since the 1st week in August! :(

 

Not just me, but the person buying my 3.15 after I upgrade to 3.42's

I've heard the Hypertech for 2002 models will be available around the first of the year; but I don't want to wait that long.

There are rumors abound that at least two companies will offer DIY reprograming interfaces that will work on one car only (you couldn't pass the device around to your friends... but that's OK by me) for around $200 2 B available within a couple of months.

If my Corvette was a 2000 or earlier model, my dealer would reprog an axle ratio change for $60. Talk about frustrated!! Heck, I'd pay triple that right now to get this done on my 2002.

 

I've been waiting for almost 4 months now. Some forum members got it in less than 4 weeks :confused: . Steve did not respond to my email either :mad .

Iam planning to do head/cam & gears/converter swap soon, and this time Iam gonna go with Ed Wright. His turn around time is 2-3 days (talk about commitment here). Besides, if you don't want to send your PCM to Ed, he can get you a whole new PCM & program it for your VIN. Once you receive the new PCM you can install it & send the original back to him as a core exchange.
There is no way Iam gonna wait months & months waiting for a PCM program every time I mod my car. The mod fever strikes me alot & I don't even try to resist it :D :D :D





[Modified by Corvette4ever, 12:18 PM 11/8/2001]

 

How do you contact Ed Wright? Web Site?

Thanks
:cheers:

 

http://www.fastchip.com

ewright@gorilla.net

:seeya

 

I was hopeing for a comment from Steve Cole. If he is a one man operation - he needs to expand or get one of the other mall vendors to do the "resale" of "shelf stuff" for him.

There is definately a market out there not being served - someone will step in and meet the demand - that is thankfully the American way.

When you first start out programming it is fun. And I'm sure Steve still enjoys working with the highly modded cars. But it has also become a business, and very well could be over running him. I personally like the $200 do it yourseld things - but there is definately implied risk there.

The real easy money is to resale already proven programs from certain specified setups. Like if they had a listing for "Mean Green's program" works with mod x, y, and z. If you go get mod x, y, and z. you can get a already tested version that will work with your stuff. Fast easy - no problem. Not everyone needs a "custome" job. the mass market wants off the shelf stuff.

 

Hey Guys I understand your frustration…I survived the waiting game myself. All I can say is IT IS WORTH THE WAIT!!!!! In my opinion (and most other peoples) Steve is the best. I've had my PL for about a year now and it is GREAT. About a month ago I had my car in the shop for a memory problem and they reloaded my computer. I couldn't believe the difference. It was like driving a totally different car. Once you experience the PL the stock programming makes the car feel like a Honda……You can never go back. It sure was nice to have the PL so I could reload the program myself. You can go with whoever you want (it's your money)….but I wont use anyone but Steve. I'm willing to wait for such a high quality product. :)

 

"The Mean Green Program"....now I like that :D

I can understand the frustrations but I agree with Cheryl....it's worth the wait and once installed you'll forget how long you had to wait :)

 

These are 2 seperate issues. I think that the quality and ability of Steve to produce a program which maximizes the performance of the LS1 Corvette Engine is well documented, endorsed, and confirmed over and over by this forum.

I'm glad you have a great program - Yet if my car has the exact specs as your car - and all I want is a copy of what you bought - any qualified helper could load yours into one for me and send it out within a day or so. Steve has already done his majic for your set of mods and features. He just needs distribution help.

It is like a painter who starts out only doing originals - after a while he realizes to make it a business he needs to sell prints of his originals to keep up with demand for his products and not every body needs or wants an original.

Copies are fine - especially for great, well tested and proved results. You read me wrong - this is not intended to be a hit on Steve - only a suggestion that he turn his skill into more of a business - reep some rewards and more mass market some of his finner works. I do not want the other products - I want the best - But I still do not to waist Steves valuable time on something custome for me.

Just take my money and sell me a copy in a reasonable time frame.



[Modified by KingTut, 12:18 PM 11/8/2001]

 

here we go again...

 

I agree with Charley, but remember good things will come to those that w__t.

 

It may be again...but there's a scarier problem than the original wait...where's the customer service if there's a problem ???? I have a set of 3.42's in my garage...waiting, as much as I would love to have a PL, I can't risk my car, which is a daily driver, to someone who can't or won't respond reasonably...

I just wish steve would understand this...

 

Valid frustration.

Fact: You gotta wait.

Fact: If you don't want to wait, then go with another programmer.

Fact: Well a little opinion, Steve's program is worth the wait.

I think Steve is aware of your point.

If he wants to do something about it, then it's his decission and his business.

Until then, we still face the same fact: If you want it, you gotta wait.

However, it is easier for those who already have it to say, "wait, it's worth it."

 

All excellant points and well presented - I'm in Complete agreement.

Maybe I was hopping to provide a little encouragement to Steve to "do something about it".

 

That's a GOOD One!!!! ROFLMAO!!!!!!!

Hypertech hasn't even released for 2001's!!!!!! What makes you think they are ready to release for 2002's??? I think someone is blowing smoke up your exhaust pipe! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

Vetteman2k1,

YOU ARE WRONG!

Hypertech is ready to release a program for 2002.

How?

They are hoping their 1999 program will work on the 2002 :D :D :D

 

Probably will work... considering their EXTENSIVE modifications *LOL*

 

Steve Cole works on "one progran at a time" NO exceptions.I presently have the PLII loaded and I'm having some problem with the 2-3 shift.I have spoke to Steve about this at some length. He is AWARE of the customers wishes and frustrations. I can tell you that HE is the ONLY one to program these PLII's and there is NO help. Just him. He takes alot of pride in his work. He is only one man and that's the way he wants it.There have been members that have recieved their PLII in less than a month and there have been those who have waited significantly longer. I waited about 4 weeks myself and there IS a difference in his program. The Superchips program was trash in my opinion and I had to wipe it out just to drive the car.The dealer reflashed my car to stock and it drove sluggish and absolutely like a lead slead. After loading the PLII,It was like a different car.Even with my 2-3 shift problem I'm waaaaaaay ahead.

Patience is the key. Just forget you ordered it and one day it will be there......OR try Ed Wright[url]www.fastchips.com[/url} or West Coast Corvettes....OR Hypertech....You do have options!

 

Many posts and I think it important to summarize some of them.

First, I agree that Steve Cole is the person to customize a program for your specific car; and no one is making comment that's different then this.

Second; if one can't wait, what other options are there?

Third, great feedback to Powerloader from potential customers that are not ordering this minute due to some reasons.

Well, that's hard to do with a 3.42 carrier in the box ready to be installed. I'd like to install my 3.42's knowing the Powerloader is a week or 10 days away; but an undertermined "wait" makes this very difficult to do.

A valid point about cloning programs for like upgrades. All I need is an axle ratio change. I would hope this has been requested before and a Powerloader box could be loaded up from an existing file (from an earlier identical program upgrade) and maybe offer this for less. Those that want a complete re-do from a host of unique upgrades would pay the entire amount and have to wait for that custom program.... and those needing a routine change would get almost overnight service because of a cloned file dump.

This brings up another question. When I contacted Dave @ Z Industries, he said they read my existing PCM before making any changes because there are so many variations. He has outposts in other parts of the country that are unload/download stations. You drive your car there, the outpost reads your computer and electronically transers it to Dave's lab. You continue to driev your car until about a week later. Z Industries had received the file, made the changes and transferred it back to your local outpost. You stop by and they upload to your car. Or you can send Dave your PCM and he will ship it back to you within a week. But the important part is that he wants to read the current program before making changes.
I was told that if you ever want to return to your previous settings, that the original-read file had been saved and can be re-uploaded into your car if requested.

How is the Powerloader setup able to make the changes without first reading your current configuration? Is it trial-n-error or does Steve have a factory default file for all years and configs of C5's? I've read that some of the factories programing may change during the middle of a production run. Seems like (only guessing here) one would want to read out the factory program and modify it with all these variations.