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Old Sep 11, 2007 | 10:43 PM
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I have a 1998 mn6 with the stock injectors. The car has a mild cam, headers and 90/90 setup with many bolt ons ( 390rwhp ). I just installed AFR 205 heads 59cc. Need to get a new power tune but unsure about increasing injector size? Any thoughts?
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Originally Posted by chevybob
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I have a 1998 mn6 with the stock injectors. The car has a mild cam, headers and 90/90 setup with many bolt ons ( 390rwhp ). I just installed AFR 205 heads 59cc. Need to get a new power tune but unsure about increasing injector size? Any thoughts?
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I'm saying yes. Your stockers are probably operating near the upper limit of their duty cycle as is.
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 12:16 AM
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My Z06 29 lbers were good to about 490 RWHP. I installed some 37s. Want to buy my 29s?
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 12:18 AM
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I am actually curious about this as well. I am doing similar upgrades as you chevybob but I will also be adding a 100 shot nitrous. I was looking at some used 42lb in the parts forum, would those be too big?
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Too big.
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 12:51 AM
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Yea Im maxed out but still ok on my stock injectors. 29lbs. On the verge though.
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 10:00 AM
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Find a friend with a full feature scanner and run a 15-20 minute log to find duty cycle and performance characteristics of your car. From the scan they or a tuner can either recommend keep the current injectors or get larger and what size you need. Also, this is the info the tuner would need to give you the intermediate values in your final tune. By the way in that 15-20 minute scan you will have to sacrifice some gas in doing some all out runs thru the gears.
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Old Sep 12, 2007 | 12:50 PM
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before you go spending money, see what your tuner says. Stock injectors are usually good for ~400rwhp...and SVO 30's for at least 450-500rwhp. Some people go too big (I went to #42) and then have trouble tuning.
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I have a 98 with 390 RWHP and on the data logger the duty cycles will shoot up to around 88% they say 80% is about the limit--or they will overheat-98's came stock with 28 lb. injectors--If I were racing a lot or running at WOT alot I should change them to at least 30 lbs. However for intermitant short use they should be fine and I haven't had any issues
PS I would make sure you have adequate fuel pressure and flow--AND make sure your voltage is consistant at the fuel pump--
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Originally Posted by GKE
I am actually curious about this as well. I am doing similar upgrades as you chevybob but I will also be adding a 100 shot nitrous. I was looking at some used 42lb in the parts forum, would those be too big?

Only if you will be using a DRY nitrous system the injectors will need to be addrerssed--On a WET system additional fuel is added in the nitrous nozzle and mixed with the NOS
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You WILL need new injectors if you are running heads cam and nitrous. I would think the 42's would be fine but I am waiting to see what LG suggest.
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Lots of reputable tuners have run injectors at 130% duty cycle with a solid AFR and no injector issues.

Duty cycle is just the computers estimate....based on other parameters. Just because the computer "thinks" your injectors are maxxed out, doesn't mean they are. If your AFR is solid, you're good to go.
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My old 383 setup made 420 rhwp with 26lb injectors. They where close to the max duty cycle, but no problems.

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Old Sep 14, 2007 | 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 99 vett babycar
you're fine

I have a similar setup on my 00 with ported heads & larger valves. My tunner said the stock ones were good.
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