Good NO2 info to know....
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From: Tacoma WA
Good call, N20.
I think some folks may be missing my point here. What I'm trying to say, is putting a 100+ shot on a stock bottom end, is not the greatest idea. Can you get lucky and use Nitrous without having problems..yes. Are you putting your engine at a much higher risk of breakdown due to Nitrous use...yes. Is the spray worth taking chances on a STOCK motor for some extra HP, in my opinion...no.
I think some folks may be missing my point here. What I'm trying to say, is putting a 100+ shot on a stock bottom end, is not the greatest idea. Can you get lucky and use Nitrous without having problems..yes. Are you putting your engine at a much higher risk of breakdown due to Nitrous use...yes. Is the spray worth taking chances on a STOCK motor for some extra HP, in my opinion...no.
Robert
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I have seen many folks on this forum, recommend putting a 100 shot of NO2 on a stock LS engine. I have recommended against this without first forging your bottom end, or "building a strong base"
This article will give you a proffessional perspective and some things to consider when thinking about adding an N02 system to you car.
www.idavette.net/hib/nitrous.htm
Good luck!
This article will give you a proffessional perspective and some things to consider when thinking about adding an N02 system to you car.
www.idavette.net/hib/nitrous.htm
Good luck!
I'm going to quote the article your referenced now:
"As you can see, nitrous oxide is like any other power increasing modification in that, when used wisely and installed properly, it works well."
take that into serious consideration. He also specifically speaks to '82 or 84' engines being brought up to 300hp.... aka--- Carburated motors. This has nothing to freakin do with LSx engines. If he's used a 20# bottle in 20 seconds he was having a helluva good time while doing it... aka, there was more in the cockpit than the motor...
I'm not a nitrous expert by any stretch of anyones imagination but I'd say there are plenty of them here available to tell you their experience (read: something you don't have in this subject matter from what I can tell) says it can be safely and effectively run.
That being said, I'll take a blower setup over a bottle every day of the week..
if i'm going to weaken my motor it sure as hells aint going to be 1/4 mile at a time, I want it ALL the time.
Last edited by iced98lx; Oct 2, 2007 at 12:09 AM. Reason: shouldn't sound like SUCH a dick.
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From: Chino California
St. Jude Donor '08-'09
Folks, It is not NO2 it is N2O. Lets at least get that right if people are going to throw info around. It is no different than any power adder. Add boost and the motor will have more stresses, add compression and the motor will have more stresses, add nitrous and the motor will have more stresses. If you are not willing to accept those facts leave her stock.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Totally was waiting for someone to catch that N02 thing.
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From: Euless TX
We appreciate your concern and warning.
I feel that most engine failures are due improper safety precautions and tuning. For example, not running a window switch with rpm pills and injecting nos under 3k rpm. Not running enough fuel for the big shots and running lean. If you take all the necessary precautions you can safely run ALOT of nitrous.
I used to use 100 hp jets and my buddy used to use 150 hp jets on our ta's. We went through alot of bottles. Both vehicles are running stong as ever and mine is past 110k miles.
My next project is a supercharger with all the bolt ons, on high compression, on a 112 lsa cam.
While it may not be a risk some are willing to take, some try to make it a reason to upgrade. Do I have a higher chance of cracking a piston or spinning a bearing? Yes. But that is the risk I and many others are willing to take. Forged block here I come. But, until that day..
Hp alway comes with a cost. You have to upgrade your cluth, output shaft, forged block, etc. I am firm beleiver with a conservative tune this engine can handle up to 500 rwhp on the stock bottom.
I feel that most engine failures are due improper safety precautions and tuning. For example, not running a window switch with rpm pills and injecting nos under 3k rpm. Not running enough fuel for the big shots and running lean. If you take all the necessary precautions you can safely run ALOT of nitrous.
I used to use 100 hp jets and my buddy used to use 150 hp jets on our ta's. We went through alot of bottles. Both vehicles are running stong as ever and mine is past 110k miles.
My next project is a supercharger with all the bolt ons, on high compression, on a 112 lsa cam.
While it may not be a risk some are willing to take, some try to make it a reason to upgrade. Do I have a higher chance of cracking a piston or spinning a bearing? Yes. But that is the risk I and many others are willing to take. Forged block here I come. But, until that day..
Hp alway comes with a cost. You have to upgrade your cluth, output shaft, forged block, etc. I am firm beleiver with a conservative tune this engine can handle up to 500 rwhp on the stock bottom.
Last edited by kendo347; Oct 2, 2007 at 02:46 AM.
