Possible SEAFOAM Mishap HELP:(
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Possible SEAFOAM Mishap HELP:(
OK guys here's the deal,
About a month ago I was seafoaming the through the vacum line behind the throttle body with a neighbor on the accelerator keeping the car idleing.
Well I yell'd for him to shut the car off and he did, but the motor kept turning, so I kept dribbling seafoam in trying to get it to semi flood the cylinders. Not knowing the he heard me and it still chugging away I kept pooring it in, until it suddenly the motor blew SEAFOAM forward through the vacume line, and through the intake manifold
Ever since then the car has run fine, but I notice a stronger then normal smell out of the exhaust, and occasionaly I notice white smoke coming out of the exhaust.
The reason I bring this up is because last week I installed a new Vortech Blower and at idle now I am noticing just allittle white smoke through the tail pipes.
When the Seafoam blew out did it damage the valley cover, or intake manifold? Possibley crack the manifold and now be causing oil to blow by?
Please help I am starting to freak out LOL.
Thanks,
Andy Wheeler
About a month ago I was seafoaming the through the vacum line behind the throttle body with a neighbor on the accelerator keeping the car idleing.
Well I yell'd for him to shut the car off and he did, but the motor kept turning, so I kept dribbling seafoam in trying to get it to semi flood the cylinders. Not knowing the he heard me and it still chugging away I kept pooring it in, until it suddenly the motor blew SEAFOAM forward through the vacume line, and through the intake manifold
Ever since then the car has run fine, but I notice a stronger then normal smell out of the exhaust, and occasionaly I notice white smoke coming out of the exhaust.
The reason I bring this up is because last week I installed a new Vortech Blower and at idle now I am noticing just allittle white smoke through the tail pipes.
When the Seafoam blew out did it damage the valley cover, or intake manifold? Possibley crack the manifold and now be causing oil to blow by?
Please help I am starting to freak out LOL.
Thanks,
Andy Wheeler
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It does sound like you got too much in there and messed it up. Normally any time you get white smoke out of the exhaust, then coolant is getting into the combustion chamber therefore a blown headgasket. My first suggestion is to a compression test. I have a pretty good feeling that you have blown a gasket or cracked something.
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Well,
There is no coolant smell, and I probably have put about 2,000 miles on the car as a daily driver since it happened. It seemed to be driving fine, but just would seem to smoke at startup like once a week maybe, pretty random.
The car is a 2001 Z06 with the oil burning issue, and it has never been reringed. I also just installed a Vortech blower and so far it has only done this on startup while idleing. I have only let the car idle for about 10 minutes total since the blower install and I started noticing it.
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There is no coolant smell, and I probably have put about 2,000 miles on the car as a daily driver since it happened. It seemed to be driving fine, but just would seem to smoke at startup like once a week maybe, pretty random.
The car is a 2001 Z06 with the oil burning issue, and it has never been reringed. I also just installed a Vortech blower and so far it has only done this on startup while idleing. I have only let the car idle for about 10 minutes total since the blower install and I started noticing it.
Andy
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white smoke at startup after a install like that is normal unless the smoke persists after the car has fully warmed up. don't be an alarmist like the other guy. watch your coolant level over the next few days and drive it like normal. if you blew a headgasket you will know it soon enough and it is not that big of a deal to change it. have you had the car tuned since the install?
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you could Have some Valve seal issues ,Does the car use oil ?I have valve seal issues & my car does the exaxct same thing u have described ,If u blew a Head Gasket & it Blew pretty bad ,u will Be able to pull your dipstick & see if its milky
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Well,
So far the the coolant level has been fine, and I really dont think it is a coolant realted issue. The smell still kind of smells like sea foam smoke actually.
No I have not had the motor tuned yet since the install, it was just something I was noticing. I figured it could have something to do with the new parts, but this sea foam issue did happen over a month ago, but I was useing the car as a daily driver for the last month and a half and it was driving fine.
So I am kind off at a loss. I will let it continue to idle longer tomorrow and see what it does.
Andy
So far the the coolant level has been fine, and I really dont think it is a coolant realted issue. The smell still kind of smells like sea foam smoke actually.
No I have not had the motor tuned yet since the install, it was just something I was noticing. I figured it could have something to do with the new parts, but this sea foam issue did happen over a month ago, but I was useing the car as a daily driver for the last month and a half and it was driving fine.
So I am kind off at a loss. I will let it continue to idle longer tomorrow and see what it does.
Andy
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[QUOTE=FLATOUT;1562291529]Well,
The First thing i would do is go get it tuned ,i Hope u arent standing in the gas @ full throttle, full Boost wiith NO tune ,That would not be good
So far the the coolant level has been fine, and I really dont think it is a coolant realted issue. The smell still kind of smells like sea foam smoke actually.
No I have not had the motor tuned yet since the install, it was just something I was noticing. I figured it could have something to do with the new parts, but this sea foam issue did happen over a month ago, but I was useing the car as a daily driver for the last month and a half and it was driving fine.
So I am kind off at a loss. I will let it continue to idle longer tomorrow and see what it does.
The First thing i would do is go get it tuned ,i Hope u arent standing in the gas @ full throttle, full Boost wiith NO tune ,That would not be good
So far the the coolant level has been fine, and I really dont think it is a coolant realted issue. The smell still kind of smells like sea foam smoke actually.
No I have not had the motor tuned yet since the install, it was just something I was noticing. I figured it could have something to do with the new parts, but this sea foam issue did happen over a month ago, but I was useing the car as a daily driver for the last month and a half and it was driving fine.
So I am kind off at a loss. I will let it continue to idle longer tomorrow and see what it does.
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You should get the computer tuned. Obvously you have changed to intake charge with supercharger. By the way; I have worked on cars for 20 years and never heard of this 'sea foam'; what are you refering to and why do it?
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I wasn't trying to be an alarmist..sorry if I came across that way. Maybe I was reading more into your post than you meant. I was thinking you were seeing white smoke while driving it meaning it was heated up...if that was the case, then something would be up. Did you change the oil after using the SeaFoam?
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SeaFoam is a cleaner that is normally used to de-carbon the cylinders/heads. It must be used carefully so as to not hydro-lock the engine.
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The car has literaly only idled for a total of 10 minutes after the blower install as I finished it yesterday. I have not even driven the car with the blower yet, just let it idle in the garage.
I am starting to think maybe its just the new parts burning off some smoke.
I have been building LS1 cars for about 8 years now (three different cars) so I am familiar with these motors, and the nesecity of getting the car tuned with the blower.
The light white smoke at idle just alarmed me.
Andy
I am starting to think maybe its just the new parts burning off some smoke.
I have been building LS1 cars for about 8 years now (three different cars) so I am familiar with these motors, and the nesecity of getting the car tuned with the blower.
The light white smoke at idle just alarmed me.
Andy
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The car has literaly only idled for a total of 10 minutes after the blower install as I finished it yesterday. I have not even driven the car with the blower yet, just let it idle in the garage.
I am starting to think maybe its just the new parts burning off some smoke.
I have been building LS1 cars for about 8 years now (three different cars) so I am familiar with these motors, and the nesecity of getting the car tuned with the blower.
The light white smoke at idle just alarmed me.
Andy
I am starting to think maybe its just the new parts burning off some smoke.
I have been building LS1 cars for about 8 years now (three different cars) so I am familiar with these motors, and the nesecity of getting the car tuned with the blower.
The light white smoke at idle just alarmed me.
Andy
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What is there, like, 100k or so on the engine? There is no need to use such an additive. I went to the website (sea foam) and believe that most racers/hot rodders don't use such additives. Why not just change the oil regularly and ensure proper tune. And the car will be fine. Add no 'Sea foam' to a C5. How many miles were on the engine in the first place; heck an LS series motor can easily go 150k (and more) with Laissez-faire maintinance.
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He didn't say how many miles are on his engine. Usually SeaFoam is used in an attempt to stop pinging caused by carbon buildup in the cylinders. Carbon is a natural leftover of the premium fuels our cars require. I keep my '99 in as good shape as possible and I do have some pinging issues that Seafoam did not cure. It did help a little, but didn't stop it. So even though mine runs like its new, it pings...of course in my case, I'm at 297,000 miles too.
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My car has 50,000 miles on it, but,
it is an 01 Z06 and I was detonating on the dyno at just 35,000 miles due to carbon buildup. Me and my tuner Seafoamed it along time ago and the pinging went away so thats why I was using it.
Anyways I am starting to think its just new parts being on the car and not having a chance to burn off some of the oils that may have been on the packing materials or somthing.
Anyways I will report back later on my findings.
Thanks guys,
Andy
it is an 01 Z06 and I was detonating on the dyno at just 35,000 miles due to carbon buildup. Me and my tuner Seafoamed it along time ago and the pinging went away so thats why I was using it.
Anyways I am starting to think its just new parts being on the car and not having a chance to burn off some of the oils that may have been on the packing materials or somthing.
Anyways I will report back later on my findings.
Thanks guys,
Andy
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I seafoamed a Mustang I used to have and blew a headgasket while driving it. Seafoam can expose weaknesses or things that are about to go..... Can you tell if the smoke is white and sweet smelling or is it gray and dirty smelling?