Air Intake and power program
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Air Intake and power program
I just ordered a "Y" style air intake from ebay. The filters are like the K&N types I have seen before but were a bit cheaper. My question is simple; I have the stock air intake witht he front cut our and a K&N filter. Will this provide any increase from the current setup in RWHP? Many books say this will do nothing due to a "wind tunnel effect" at the area where the tubes come together. I don't believe it will not get better because there is substantial air increase but I am far from an expert.
Also, many books say that the out of the box power programers from ecklers and others are a "waste of money" and can even detract from performance. They have a new one for $350 that came to my email box. I was thinking about it but don't want to do it for the sake of saying it is there.
Also, many books say that the out of the box power programers from ecklers and others are a "waste of money" and can even detract from performance. They have a new one for $350 that came to my email box. I was thinking about it but don't want to do it for the sake of saying it is there.
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The main concern I have with that design is the great potential of inferior filtering. Many of those systems are made off shore, hence the cheap price. As far as performance increase, probably not measurable. It might provide you the "look" of more performance or maybe the "sound" of more performance.
If a system costs you $60 (or less on EBAY), think of what the manufacturer is using for filters. It's your car to do with as you please.
Here's a recent discussion...
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1873082
As far as the programmers, most will tell you to get a professional tune which allows for more variables than come in the hand helds. The hand helds have limited abilities, but can allow for fans on/off, rpm shift points, shift firmness, etc on an automatic car. In that regard, it might be beneficial to you. The $350 cost of a hand held is justified by whether you think the specific limited benefits are worth it. With a manual transmission car, there will be less to do with a hand held. You could buy software and learn to tune your own car.
Since you're in the valley, you have at least two east valley performance shops that can do a tune for your car. A tune may cost anywhere from $250 to $500 depending on what type of tune is performed. If your car is relatively stock, then a tune may not give you significant performance results, but could eliminate CAGS, increase shift firmness, shift points, fans on/off, top speed, rev limits, etc.
Call EXTREME PERFORMANCE in Tempe and ask them about what they might be able to do for you with a professional tune.
If a system costs you $60 (or less on EBAY), think of what the manufacturer is using for filters. It's your car to do with as you please.
Here's a recent discussion...
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1873082
As far as the programmers, most will tell you to get a professional tune which allows for more variables than come in the hand helds. The hand helds have limited abilities, but can allow for fans on/off, rpm shift points, shift firmness, etc on an automatic car. In that regard, it might be beneficial to you. The $350 cost of a hand held is justified by whether you think the specific limited benefits are worth it. With a manual transmission car, there will be less to do with a hand held. You could buy software and learn to tune your own car.
Since you're in the valley, you have at least two east valley performance shops that can do a tune for your car. A tune may cost anywhere from $250 to $500 depending on what type of tune is performed. If your car is relatively stock, then a tune may not give you significant performance results, but could eliminate CAGS, increase shift firmness, shift points, fans on/off, top speed, rev limits, etc.
Call EXTREME PERFORMANCE in Tempe and ask them about what they might be able to do for you with a professional tune.
Last edited by hotwheels57; Nov 30, 2007 at 02:35 PM.
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The main concern I have with that design is the great potential of inferior filtering. Many of those systems are made off shore, hence the cheap price. As far as performance increase, probably not measurable. It might provide you the "look" of more performance or maybe the "sound" of more performance.
If a system costs you $60 (or less on EBAY), think of what the manufacturer is using for filters. It's your car to do with as you please.
Here's a recent discussion...
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1873082
As far as the programmers, most will tell you to get a professional tune which allows for more variables than come in the hand helds. The hand helds have limited abilities, but can allow for fans on/off, rpm shift points, shift firmness, etc on an automatic car. In that regard, it might be beneficial to you. The $350 cost of a hand held is justified by whether you think the specific limited benefits are worth it. With a manual transmission car, there will be less to do with a hand held. You could buy software and learn to tune your own car.
Since you're in the valley, you have at least two east valley performance shops that can do a tune for your car. A tune may cost anywhere from $250 to $500 depending on what type of tune is performed. If your car is relatively stock, then a tune may not give you significant performance results, but could eliminate CAGS, increase shift firmness, shift points, fans on/off, top speed, rev limits, etc.
Call EXTREME PERFORMANCE in Tempe and ask them about what they might be able to do for you with a professional tune.
If a system costs you $60 (or less on EBAY), think of what the manufacturer is using for filters. It's your car to do with as you please.
Here's a recent discussion...
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1873082
As far as the programmers, most will tell you to get a professional tune which allows for more variables than come in the hand helds. The hand helds have limited abilities, but can allow for fans on/off, rpm shift points, shift firmness, etc on an automatic car. In that regard, it might be beneficial to you. The $350 cost of a hand held is justified by whether you think the specific limited benefits are worth it. With a manual transmission car, there will be less to do with a hand held. You could buy software and learn to tune your own car.
Since you're in the valley, you have at least two east valley performance shops that can do a tune for your car. A tune may cost anywhere from $250 to $500 depending on what type of tune is performed. If your car is relatively stock, then a tune may not give you significant performance results, but could eliminate CAGS, increase shift firmness, shift points, fans on/off, top speed, rev limits, etc.
Call EXTREME PERFORMANCE in Tempe and ask them about what they might be able to do for you with a professional tune.
It seems easy to install and take out but with all the attention I want to give it a try before doing one of the tunes. If the filters suck, I will replace them with the K&N but I see no reason to worry if you clean them often.
I plan to go to Extreme Performance in Tempe soon as I finish this...Thanks again
