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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 06:28 AM
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As I read through this thread, I also agree it sounds like the water pump has failed. It's failure has all these symptons. Check it out!
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 08:19 AM
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Are you hiding from the law, or do you not want people to know who you are? There might be someone down the street that can help you!
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 12:43 PM
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You need to check the thermostat or just replace it.

When you remove the thermostat the coolant doesn't spend enough time in the radiator to actually cool off, so the coolant is constantly circulating and building heat, getting hotter with each pass thru the engine and only cooling slightly with each pass thru the radiator.
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Slick Rick
Sounds like you have a heater core problem......
This was my first thought when I opened this thread. If not getting heat then the core is not getting hot water to give you the heat. Had 2 cars in the past with this problem. Not sure how the plumbing in the C5 is. Just thinking there is a blockage that is causing both the flow for cooling as well as the heater core.
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by runamuk
You need to check the thermostat or just replace it.

When you remove the thermostat the coolant doesn't spend enough time in the radiator to actually cool off, so the coolant is constantly circulating and building heat, getting hotter with each pass thru the engine and only cooling slightly with each pass thru the radiator.
Yep. Been down that road myself years ago. Water moves to fast to cool so it just keeps building temp.
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by RedRiderZR1
This was my first thought when I opened this thread. If not getting heat then the core is not getting hot water to give you the heat. Had 2 cars in the past with this problem. Not sure how the plumbing in the C5 is. Just thinking there is a blockage that is causing both the flow for cooling as well as the heater core.
The hot water is pumped directly from the water pump to the heater core and from the heater core it is rounted right back to the water pump, you can see 3 hoses on the right side of the water pump, the 2 small ones are heater hoses and the large one is the lower radiator hose.

If you can select full heat inside the car and it does not blow hot air then it could be a bad water pump but the water pump is so simple in it's operation I just have a hard time believing that.
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by runamuk
The hot water is pumped directly from the water pump to the heater core and from the heater core it is rounted right back to the water pump, you can see 3 hoses on the right side of the water pump, the 2 small ones are heater hoses and the large one is the lower radiator hose.

If you can select full heat inside the car and it does not blow hot air then it could be a bad water pump but the water pump is so simple in it's operation I just have a hard time believing that.
Thanks for the info. Well then the heat problem in the car is probably something that can be read through codes for the HVAC maybe. I don't see the Heater core being an issue. I guess you can feel for temp changes in the two heater hoses into the water pump to make sure hot water is going through there. eliminates any heater core issues in his heating problem. Thought the overheating issue and the heating problem were a combined problem but maybe not.
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 01:29 PM
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I tried blowing into one of the small top hoses on the radiator with the drain plug out and it seems that something is blocking it. I blowed in the big hose on the top left for the radiator and I blew through fine. I am thinking that the radiator is cloged. I am thinking of getting a new radiator and installing it. I think the waterpump is fine and trying to pump I just think that the radiator is cloged. I did open the cap a little after running the car for a while and it does have pressure. When I opened it a little a lot of steam came out and it was relieving the pressure.

What do yall think? I am guessing radiator.
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 01:32 PM
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I'm thinking guessing can get very expensive...do you have a shop that you trust that might be better at diagnostics than relying on guessing?
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loosen the bottom radiator hose, if water flows from the top radiator hose to the bottom freely, then I doubt your radiator is clogged.

It really sounds like a bad water pump. Did you have heat recently?
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 03:08 PM
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I had heat tuesday morning by tuesday afternoon the car started to overheat. I was told that it might be the radiator because it had almost 90k miles and I had never changed the dexcool. Someone told me that the dexcool caused a lot of clogging.
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The DEXCOOL naysayers are at it again...read all of this...
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show....php?t=1887144
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 03:42 PM
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When you drained the coolant was it pink or muddy brown? Pink is okay. Muddy brown and you had an air leak and dexcool went bad.
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Have you replaced the thermostat.

If your going to start loading the parts shotgun, thermostats are cheaper than radiators
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Old Dec 18, 2007 | 06:34 PM
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Since you removed your thermostat, it is easy to check. Just put it in a pan of water. It should open fully at 195 F or just before water boils.
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Originally Posted by runamuk
You need to check the thermostat or just replace it.

When you remove the thermostat the coolant doesn't spend enough time in the radiator to actually cool off, so the coolant is constantly circulating and building heat, getting hotter with each pass thru the engine and only cooling slightly with each pass thru the radiator.
What??????????? You are kidding......right?

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Old Dec 19, 2007 | 06:24 PM
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Ok problem may be resolved. Yesterday I replaced the thermostat. While I was at autozone the guy there told me to make sure that I "Burp" the car. He said that when you drain the whole system there is air in the engine. I thought I got all the air out after running it for a while. Everything seemed fine. I ran the car yesterday night and it overheated on the highway. I was only 15 min away from my house but took nearly an hour to get home. I would drive it a little and then wait for the car to cool down. I got home and parked it for the night. The next day I woke up and checked the resivior. The resivior was completely empty. I filled it all the way up and drove it for 30 min. No problems at all. I will keep yall posted but I think it just had to much air in the engine.
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Originally Posted by gra03vette04
Ok problem may be resolved. Yesterday I replaced the thermostat. While I was at autozone the guy there told me to make sure that I "Burp" the car. He said that when you drain the whole system there is air in the engine. I thought I got all the air out after running it for a while. Everything seemed fine. I ran the car yesterday night and it overheated on the highway. I was only 15 min away from my house but took nearly an hour to get home. I would drive it a little and then wait for the car to cool down. I got home and parked it for the night. The next day I woke up and checked the resivior. The resivior was completely empty. I filled it all the way up and drove it for 30 min. No problems at all. I will keep yall posted but I think it just had to much air in the engine.
You really need to get a service manual for you car, or you might find chasing your tail to be a repeat episode.
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