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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 12:53 AM
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Default Powerbleeder will not hold pressure...my solution

I just bought a Motive Products Power Bleeder with the GM attachment. It attached to the master cylinder nicely, but would not hold more than 9.5psi without leaking from the connection point to the master cylinder. I tried all kinds of ways to reseat, clean and otherwise attempt to get it to hold to 15psi, but it would always leak.

Has anyone else had this problem? What solution did you come up with?

My solution involved zip ties:


This let me get up to 15psi every time:


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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 01:42 AM
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I think some guys bought a C5 reservoir cap, drilled it, and put a fitting in it to accept the hose.

Your solution is a pretty good idea if you don't have a cap.
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 01:46 AM
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I cut a couple of round washers out of a milk jug and put them under the rubber washer that's in the Motive cap. Problem solved.
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 03:43 AM
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Careful with the pressure - I have been using my Motive Power Bleeder on our Volvo and Toyotas for 5 years plus. I never pump up more than about 10-11 PSI.

Unless there is something about our Corvette system that requires 15 PSI- IMO I would keep it around 10 PSI.

Separately - the Motive cap is a specific GM fit right? Why not call Motive perhaps theres a gasket they forgot to include- or they can send a second one to double up and better hold the pressure. In a pinch - ur zip tie work around was a good solution.

Good you pointed it out- will remind me to keep a towel wrapped around the connection and master cylinder to prevent brake fluid spray onto painted surfaces
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 06:21 AM
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That's pathetic for an $80 item. Mine has yet to even fit on my cap. The supplied washer is too fat, and none other was supplied.

I would really just rather have my money back and forget that I ever bought one.
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 08:20 AM
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We tried several solutions before we successfully drilled a hole in the center of a rubber hockey puck. Throw a barbed fitting on one side and attach that to your powerbleeder (we used an air powered A/C vacuum device from harbor freight for $15). Then just lay the puck on top of the master and it will draw a vacuum perfectly. One size fits all...will work on brakes and clutches.
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 08:30 AM
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 09:45 AM
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I thought mine did not fit. The cap is a very tight fit. If you turn it all the way with some force you will feel it lock in. I also used it on a truck and it was not as tight.

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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by dndrsn
This is what I have, it is the specific GM tool for this job and can be purchased from Kent-Moore.
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 11:12 AM
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but would not hold more than 9.5psi without leaking from the connection point to the master cylinder. I tried all kinds of ways to reseat, clean and otherwise attempt to get it to hold to 15psi, but it would always leak.
Wow! I've never gone over 5 psi with mine -- all you need is a little pressure to urge the fluid through the lines. I'd be worried about lifting the plastic reservoir off of the metal master cylinder body at 15 psi!
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Originally Posted by runamuk
This is what I have, it is the specific GM tool for this job and can be purchased from Kent-Moore.
I just ordered mine from Kent-Moore. $79.00 plus shipping, cheap. lol
It's always best to have the right tool, and since I'll be using this regularly it's a no-brainer. Thanks for the info.
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Originally Posted by mneblett
Wow! I've never gone over 5 psi with mine -- all you need is a little pressure to urge the fluid through the lines. I'd be worried about lifting the plastic reservoir off of the metal master cylinder body at 15 psi!
You would think that is the case as I did, but I've learned you need at least 15psi, preferably 20psi to purge the ABS and bleed it without a Tech 2.
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I use 20 lbs. on mine. The instructions say not to exceed 20. I tried 10 but was way too slow.
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by ArKay99
You would think that is the case as I did, but I've learned you need at least 15psi, preferably 20psi to purge the ABS and bleed it without a Tech 2.

If you’re going to use that much pressure, I would strongly advise that you wrap at least a couple of zip ties around the reservoir and main body to prevent the plastic reservoir from blowing off.
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by timemender
If you’re going to use that much pressure, I would strongly advise that you wrap at least a couple of zip ties around the reservoir and main body to prevent the plastic reservoir from blowing off.
Good suggestion. I always keep a supply on hand. Kinda like shop towels and duct tape.
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Originally Posted by mike348
I use 20 lbs. on mine. The instructions say not to exceed 20. I tried 10 but was way too slow.
I generally use 15 psi and it usually holds well enough to do 2 calipers before I have to repump it back to 15.
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Old Jan 23, 2008 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Billdog350
We tried several solutions before we successfully drilled a hole in the center of a rubber hockey puck. Throw a barbed fitting on one side and attach that to your powerbleeder (we used an air powered A/C vacuum device from harbor freight for $15). Then just lay the puck on top of the master and it will draw a vacuum perfectly. One size fits all...will work on brakes and clutches.
We are talking about pressure, not vacuum...you need something that locks tightly to the master cylinder if you are going to hold 15psi in order to get the ABS bleed.
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Originally Posted by mike348
I thought mine did not fit. The cap is a very tight fit. If you turn it all the way with some force you will feel it lock in. I also used it on a truck and it was not as tight.
I turned it and did feel it lock, but it still would not hold 10psi.
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by John Galt
We are talking about pressure, not vacuum...you need something that locks tightly to the master cylinder if you are going to hold 15psi in order to get the ABS bleed.
You got me, I though you were referring to the clutch master which needs a vacuum applied to it. As far as the brake master, I can see pressure at the master helping bleeding. Why aren't people using speedbleeders?

Additionally, I have had great luck with a vacuum (same device) on the bleeder valves at each caliper. Vacuum is a lot safer (no chance of explosion) and I've had great luck with it. 20+ psi on the plastic master tank?
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Billdog350
You got me, I though you were referring to the clutch master which needs a vacuum applied to it. As far as the brake master, I can see pressure at the master helping bleeding. Why aren't people using speedbleeders?

Additionally, I have had great luck with a vacuum (same device) on the bleeder valves at each caliper. Vacuum is a lot safer (no chance of explosion) and I've had great luck with it. 20+ psi on the plastic master tank?
Not 20+, 15-20psi. I've been told that you need that much pressure to purge the ABS.
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