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Old Feb 3, 2008 | 10:25 AM
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been having the 2000 vert i picked up gone through

the only thing the guy said he was picking up was a code about an idle air relearn or something. he said you'd get like 100 misses in 20 minutes at idle, since changing the plugs, it's now down to 20 after idling for 20 minutes. it's #2

he said the car isn't showing any miss at normal driving or at wot, he said from talkin to his guy at chevy the computer may need a reflash or something. it isn't throwing a CEL

any input there?

he did try switching coils and plugs to see if it followed the coil or the plug and it did not.
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Originally Posted by beefcake
been having the 2000 vert i picked up gone through

the only thing the guy said he was picking up was a code about an idle air relearn or something. he said you'd get like 100 misses in 20 minutes at idle, since changing the plugs, it's now down to 20 after idling for 20 minutes. it's #2

he said the car isn't showing any miss at normal driving or at wot, he said from talkin to his guy at chevy the computer may need a reflash or something. it isn't throwing a CEL

any input there?

he did try switching coils and plugs to see if it followed the coil or the plug and it did not.
I assume you changed the wires with the plugs.....right?
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I assume you changed the wires with the plugs.....right?
i'm not sure if he changed the wires to be honest, but i do know he said he tried moving plugs and wires to diff cylinders to see if it followed the wire, and the answer was no
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i'm not sure if he changed the wires to be honest, but i do know he said he tried moving plugs and wires to diff cylinders to see if it followed the wire, and the answer was no
Ok, I guess I'm confused.....

Is this your car that you purchased with a known problem, or someone else's car?

What are the current codes on the DTC? How many miles? Any mods?
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 10:48 AM
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Ok, I guess I'm confused.....

Is this your car that you purchased with a known problem, or someone else's car?

What are the current codes on the DTC? How many miles? Any mods?
i'll have to see what the code was again,

he said it was something about an idle air relearn or something, he's not in right now, he was in an accident.

he said he had talked to a friend of his at chevy (i'm at a local shop that does a lot for me) and he said that the guy there had said something about flashing the pcm,

i'm probably gonna get a dyno tune

the car drives fine, there is no cel and no mis a normal driving or wot.

he's thinking the code was from before in the system
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 11:28 AM
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If the car drives fine then don't worry about it. You will get some mis-fires. If it gets worse, check the plugs, wires and coil packs. Oh and find a better mechanic.
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If the car drives fine then don't worry about it. You will get some mis-fires. If it gets worse, check the plugs, wires and coil packs. Oh and find a better mechanic.


There is no "flash" for a mis-fire .... what plugs, plug gap, and wires did he put in ??? Did he check the fuel injector for #2 ?? If it ain't spark, it's fuel. What was the code ?? An engine code will usually turn on the CEL, so you should verify that a DTC had been set, a misfire DTC will illuminate the CEL.

Bottom line, find someone who gives you a better explanation of the problem, and what has been done to fix it.

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There is no "flash" for a mis-fire .... what plugs, plug gap, and wires did he put in ??? Did he check the fuel injector for #2 ?? If it ain't spark, it's fuel. What was the code ?? An engine code will usually turn on the CEL, so you should verify that a DTC had been set, a misfire DTC will illuminate the CEL.

Bottom line, find someone who gives you a better explanation of the problem, and what has been done to fix it.


they don't work on a lot of vettes there, they do mostly brakes, alignments, stuff like that,

he told me the flash wouldn't be for the "misfire" he said it's possible the misfire is coming from the code that had to do with the iac relearn. i'll have to find out exactly how he explained it and write it down, it's been a couple days, now i'm fuzzy again on the whole thing lol
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Originally Posted by beefcake
they don't work on a lot of vettes there, they do mostly brakes, alignments, stuff like that,

he told me the flash wouldn't be for the "misfire" he said it's possible the misfire is coming from the code that had to do with the iac relearn. i'll have to find out exactly how he explained it and write it down, it's been a couple days, now i'm fuzzy again on the whole thing lol
Idle Re-learn is usually required after, for example, the battery has been disconnected AND on initial start-up, the idle speed is "unstable". Very complex procedure .... for an automatic.

Start engine

Turn OFF the A/C system (if ON)

Set Parking brake and/or block wheels

Ensure engine is at normal operating temperature

Shift into DRIVE and allow engine to idle for 5 minutes

Shift into PARK

Allow engine to idle for 5 minutes

Turn OFF the engine for AT LEAST 30 seconds (the PCM is storing its idle calculations during that time)

You are done ...

A manual is even worse .... let idle in NEUTRAL for 5 minutes, turn OFF the engine for at least 30 seconds.

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no gap on plug in cylinder # 2.
after i picked the car up, it was violent as hell at idle, threw a misfire code on cyl#2 right away,

took it to chevy, they called me after a couple hours this morning, they didn't gap the plug,

i know i'm mostly a driver, but for christs sakes, even i know, if you have a miss, the first thing you do is check the damn plug,

he even told me they moved around plugs and wires and stuff to see if it stayed with the cylinder.

m o r o n s

other than tires, i'll never go back there lol
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Originally Posted by beefcake
and the verdict is .....

m o r o n s

other than tires, i'll never go back there lol
I wouldn't go back there for tires ... they'll probably damage at least one TP sensor, and scratch/damage at least one wheel.

Take ALL of your business elsewhere ... that is one seriously incompetent shop .....

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