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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 04:57 PM
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2000 6 speed. Drove it this morning and ran fine. I just went out to move it and when I turn the key the car starts up right away and then stalls. Even if I push on the gas it still stalls out, pushing on the gas has no effect. Help please!!
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2000 6 speed. Drove it this morning and ran fine. I just went out to move it and when I turn the key the car starts up right away and then stalls. Even if I push on the gas it still stalls out, pushing on the gas has no effect. Help please!!
Any messages on the DIC?Like "Pull Key,Wait 10 seconds?"Sound like you might have the dreaded Column Lock.
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If it was the steering wheel colume lock would I be able to move the steering wheel? I still am able to move the steering wheel.
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DIC showed the standard sys tire mon sys, service engine soon and ABS traction system service. Showed thoes even this morning but car ran fine.
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Its almost like everything just cuts off. I try and start it again and it turns over starts and than cuts off again.
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 05:53 PM
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battery , had a friends do that. not enough power it shuts down. put new battery car ok. but could be alot of things. big help ha.
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Always pull the codes first and post them. We get a better idea that way of what's going on.
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 07:45 PM
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P1626 HC
U1000 HC
U1064 HC
U1168 HC
U1178 HC
U1040 H
U1016 H
U1064 H
BCM - No Com
HVAC - No Com

Car turns over fine runs for about 1 sec than cuts off. It ran fine this morning and I did pull and clean the ground box type connnectors today.
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 07:55 PM
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Shot in the dark, here. Check ground #3 (G401)

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I did clean and check ground G101 and G102 today. Opened them up cleaned them with electrical cleaner, wiped them off and put them back. I rechecked them after the car would not start and they looked fine. I also charged my battery today. I hate to think I will have to take the car to a dealer to find the problem.
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make sure all the air intake plumbing between the MAF and engine is connected. It will only idle if it's open.
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Based on your description, I had a similar problem about 7 years ago on my 2000. Dealer found that ground loose/bad, after about 4 days of troubleshooting various things. Wouldn't allow the fuel pump to work. The ground is located behind the tire on outside of the frame.

You can see the ground without removing the tire. It is to the rear of tire. Good luck.

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I will check that ground in the morning, but I smell fuel every time I try to start it. It starts for a second then cuts off. Even if I push the gas pedel down it still cuts off, but I do smell fuel.
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OK I just went out and pulled the ground wire behind the rear wheel and it was clean. Replaced it and tried to start the car. It started and ran for about 1 second then quit, like someone pulled the plug on it. I do not think it is a fuel issue, I believe it is an electrical issue. The thing that ticks me off is that it was running great this morning.
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Originally Posted by Fast Cop
P1626 HC
U1000 HC
U1064 HC
U1168 HC
U1178 HC
U1040 H
U1016 H
U1064 H
BCM - No Com
HVAC - No Com

Car turns over fine runs for about 1 sec than cuts off. It ran fine this morning and I did pull and clean the ground box type connnectors today.

The BCM in a NO COMM status is your problem. That's why the P1626 is set. You need to go back and look at where you worked on the wiring. Did you go into the passenger footwell area ?? Did you leave a ground wire disconnected ??

With no BCM to give the PCM the "fuel enable" password, the PCM is shutting off the engine. It is part of the theft deterrent system.

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I did do some cleaning in the passenger footwell area. I moved the BCM to get at some other wires because I saw a added wire and wanted to know what it was for so I moved the BCM out of the way. I will check all commections in the morning and see if she starts and stays running. Thanks. I will let you know.
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I did do some cleaning in the passenger footwell area. I moved the BCM to get at some other wires because I saw a added wire and wanted to know what it was for so I moved the BCM out of the way. I will check all commections in the morning and see if she starts and stays running. Thanks. I will let you know.
Yup, that is most likely the problem. Check Fuses 9, 13, 22, 23, and 25 as they all provide power to the BCM.

Also, there are two thin GREY connectors to the left of the BCM. They are the STAR connectors for the Class2 serial data bus, and have shorting bars that can come loose. Since your HVAC is also showing NO COMM I'd suspect a data bus problem.

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I agree, sounds like excellent advice
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My wife's 01 Coupe had a similar problem. Power to the fuel pump would cut out about a second after starting. The strange thing was if you kept the key in the "crank" position, the car would keep running.

Long story short: ground G105 was the culprit. You can read more details in this thread, post #36.

I did read about others having similar symptoms because a wiring harness was fried....

Good luck!

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