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Old Mar 11, 2008 | 07:47 PM
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I am getting Bilstein shocks but do not know if I should get the HD's or the Sports. Any thoughts? My fear is that I only have about 1 1/8" of upward travel in the rear before it rubs the inner fender.
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Coilovers! I believe both of the options from Bilstein are not ideal for a slammed Vette I don't know this for a fact read it some where on this forum. They both will work fine you may want to get them revalved from Bilstein? Hey what do I know. I was slammed on my stock 01 Z shocks for 2 plus years with no problems.
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people will recommend the sports over the HD's for lowered vettes but people have also used the HD's as well with a drop and liked the ride... seems the sports are a bit more stiffer. Bilsteins are recommended for about a 1" drop... but coilovers of course would be the best option but obviously bank
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Definetely the Sports. The shock body is slightly shorter That's why they work on lowered cars.
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Originally Posted by RrCoX22
. Bilsteins are recommended for about a 1" drop... but coilovers of course would be the best option but obviously bank
I talked to a Bilstein Engineer who told me the same about the 1" drop.

I went to coilovers.
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 01:41 PM
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Just a word of caution regarding the Bilstein Sports.

I was lowered on the stock bolts (no bushings cut) on an FE1 (base) suspension with approximately 75k miles on the car.

I swapped the springs with newer ZO6 springs and added the Bilstein sports. I again lowered the bushings so the car would be the same height as before.

The car now sits at what appears to be stock height. I don't know why. This is exactly what I was trying to avoid by going with the Bilsteins over the C6ZO6 shocks (I heard the C6ZO6 shocks were great but wouldn't allow the car to be lowered - which was in contrast to what I read about he Bilsteins).

I've driven the car for at least 1,000 miles like this, so any settling should have ocurred by now. If you go with the Bilsteins, chances are likely you will no longer be 'slammed'.
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Hey Fast, I bet if you cut those bushings off you will ride alot lower. I switch up to C6 Z06 shocks like them but I'm going to be putting on some coilovers here in the next day or two.
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by FASST LN
Just a word of caution regarding the Bilstein Sports.

I was lowered on the stock bolts (no bushings cut) on an FE1 (base) suspension with approximately 75k miles on the car.

I swapped the springs with newer ZO6 springs and added the Bilstein sports. I again lowered the bushings so the car would be the same height as before.

The car now sits at what appears to be stock height. I don't know why. This is exactly what I was trying to avoid by going with the Bilsteins over the C6ZO6 shocks (I heard the C6ZO6 shocks were great but wouldn't allow the car to be lowered - which was in contrast to what I read about he Bilsteins).

I've driven the car for at least 1,000 miles like this, so any settling should have ocurred by now. If you go with the Bilsteins, chances are likely you will no longer be 'slammed'.
My experience as well. Same situation- bilstein sports + FE1 suspension, then going to Z06 suspension the front of the car raised up a little. I went with Koni FSD's now and raised the rear of the car a little, sick of bottoming out everywhere and the car riding pretty crappy cause of the decrease in wheel travel.

Ah well, one of these days I'll get some coil overs...
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AFAIK, the body of the HDs and Sports are the exact same length, or about 1" shorter than factory Z51 shocks (maybe all factory shocks?)

Originally Posted by FASST LN
Just a word of caution regarding the Bilstein Sports.

I was lowered on the stock bolts (no bushings cut) on an FE1 (base) suspension with approximately 75k miles on the car.

I swapped the springs with newer ZO6 springs and added the Bilstein sports. I again lowered the bushings so the car would be the same height as before.

The car now sits at what appears to be stock height. I don't know why. This is exactly what I was trying to avoid by going with the Bilsteins over the C6ZO6 shocks (I heard the C6ZO6 shocks were great but wouldn't allow the car to be lowered - which was in contrast to what I read about he Bilsteins).

I've driven the car for at least 1,000 miles like this, so any settling should have ocurred by now. If you go with the Bilsteins, chances are likely you will no longer be 'slammed'.
Originally Posted by ericdwong
My experience as well. Same situation- bilstein sports + FE1 suspension, then going to Z06 suspension the front of the car raised up a little. I went with Koni FSD's now and raised the rear of the car a little, sick of bottoming out everywhere and the car riding pretty crappy cause of the decrease in wheel travel.

Ah well, one of these days I'll get some coil overs...
It has been repeated many times in this forum, but shocks do not control the ride height of the car. Both of you guys changed springs which, along with the adjuster bolts, do control the ride height of the car. I, along with many others who are lowered on stock bolts, have benefited from the increased travel of the Bilsteins keeping us off of the bumpstops.
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ya wtf? ...since when did shocks affect ride height ...well ok, ok maybe in a couple millimeters
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when you slam the car the lower A-arms will not be level with the ground. Once you pass level it ruins the suspension geomtry for handling.
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I installed the Bilstien sports on my 00 coupe (base suspension) with Z06 sways and lowered on stockbolts...Net result was approx 1.5" drop at all four corners and the ride & handling is 1000% better... Feels like a different car...and IMO it is not too stiff as others have commented..
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Originally Posted by FASST LN
Just a word of caution regarding the Bilstein Sports.

I was lowered on the stock bolts (no bushings cut) on an FE1 (base) suspension with approximately 75k miles on the car.

I swapped the springs with newer ZO6 springs and added the Bilstein sports. I again lowered the bushings so the car would be the same height as before.

The car now sits at what appears to be stock height. I don't know why. This is exactly what I was trying to avoid by going with the Bilsteins over the C6ZO6 shocks (I heard the C6ZO6 shocks were great but wouldn't allow the car to be lowered - which was in contrast to what I read about he Bilsteins).

I've driven the car for at least 1,000 miles like this, so any settling should have ocurred by now. If you go with the Bilsteins, chances are likely you will no longer be 'slammed'.
You've really got to check over your installation. I've got a lowered Z06 and with the Sports my car is still as low as before. Initially the car will sit a little higher when first installing Bilsteins, that is due to the high pressure of the gas charge in them. But in a short time they will settle back down to your original lowered height. The shocks can not raise your car back to stock height.
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