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Old May 13, 2008 | 01:30 PM
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Well started tearing into the car about a week ago mainly working late at night or weekends.
Had to clear one project outof the garage in order to make room to work on the vette.

Spent a good amount of time last week making the home made ramps to get the vette up the recommended height for installing the LG Street headers.


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Ported LS6 Heads 228cc/64cc (http://www.competitionproducts.com/p...=WEGWALS6243K2)
Comp Cam 224/231 .582/.591
LS2 Intake and TB ported here (using an LS2 because we got a good deal on the intake tb and injectors)
1.8 Rockers
LG Street headers and cats
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After pulling the heads almost every piston had markings from the intake valve, and that comes as a suprise.
So we flycut every piston and checked the PTV last night, and there was enough clearance with the new heads.


We also checked the lift with the rockers on and max lift turned out to be around .649, and when checking the springs we can go to around .670 safely.
Now there is more work to do with the heads as they came with a slight ridge and we are going to do some backcutting and working with the valves.

I will update more with pictures later as we go..
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Old May 13, 2008 | 01:49 PM
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You fly cut the pistons... with the pistons in the block.. and the block in the car?



btw.. my garage looks about the same. My 67 Bonneville got pushed into the 3rd car garage so I could work on the vette. lol.
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Old May 13, 2008 | 03:51 PM
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that is a great looking set of heads and a great price as well, hope you like them... have fun wrenching
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Yes the flycutting was done in the block, but we made sure to carefully remove any shaving. Before everything is assembled I will oil and wipe down every cylinder so it shouldn't be a problem.
The heads are a very nice set and so are the springs, we just got suprised at how much lift we end up seeing with the rockers.
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The LS2 TB is massive compared to the stocker

The rockers which open very very quick. I'm hoping the springs aren't going to be to stressed being opened so quickly.

I also snapped a few quick photos of the heads but I am no artist when it comes to photography(I forgot to take pictures where we had to mill some aluminum because the pushrods needed a little more room)...

The quality of the LG headers is amazing, with very nice welds and a great finish. They are deffinately a show piece for the engine bay.

I will try to post up the flow numbers of the heads that I got from our flow bench later..
Now any estimates on power?
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Old May 13, 2008 | 07:11 PM
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430 rwhp
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I would be very happy with a number like that. Would anyone else worry because of the .649 lift even though the springs are capable? Anyone else run lift that high on the street?
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You fly cut the pistons... with the pistons in the block.. and the block in the car?
Um........Yeah.
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I would be very happy with a number like that. Would anyone else worry because of the .649 lift even though the springs are capable? Anyone else run lift that high on the street?
I forgot how to calculate it but I am pretty sure you wont have a .649 lift by using a 1.8 rocker. More along the lines of a .614/.623 but I could be wrong. I know that its a good idea to use springs rated at least .50 over what the cam is putting out. I.E. a .600 lift cam would use springs good to .650. What does the manuf. rate the springs too??

Also I think you will be much happier with a LS6 intake and a LS6 ported TB over the LS2 set-up. The LS6 intake will out flow a LS2 even after is ported (but not by much)
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take the larger lift, 591. divide by 1.7=347.7 multiply * 1.8=626
If your springs were mic'd on the head for proper installation height, you'll have .023 to spare. If not, you might want to go ahead and do it, because you're pretty close.
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We bought the LS2 manifold because it came with TB and the injectors for a very good price so we couldn't pass it up. With the rockers and springs on we put and indicator on the valves to see the travel as we turned the motor over. That is where I got the .649 lift on the exhaust valve.
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Observing the lift that way got us a lift of 619 for the intake as well.
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Originally Posted by wilson34
Yes the flycutting was done in the block, but we made sure to carefully remove any shaving. Before everything is assembled I will oil and wipe down every cylinder so it shouldn't be a problem.
Originally Posted by Uncle John
Um........Yeah.
um... like how? Is there some sort of fixture to get them cut evenly? What about balancing after the cut. I'm really curious, not being an a$$.
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Just measure the desired cut, then make each one the exact size of the last.

The rockers might be a different ratio than 1.8 because of the lift observed when installed on the motor, along with the fact that they are rip offs of Comp's. They were supposed to be Comp Cams but the fact that they don't have any designation on them nor do they have the ratio stamped on them. So one could guess there is a chance they might be a different ratio
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The springs did not coil bind until 720 so they should be good for 670 lift
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Originally Posted by Todd157k
You fly cut the pistons... with the pistons in the block.. and the block in the car?



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its not a big deal, most do it
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