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Old May 15, 2008 | 11:28 PM
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I'm thinking I need a new battery. Found that "Thunder Racing" listed an Odyssey brand battery that's supposed to be "AGM". Reading around the net they seem to be pretty advanced design, long warrenties, used around the aviation industry and lots of other good things. Anyone ever used one in a C5?? Which one??

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I use a 925 it's been in this car for three years+,and was in two cars before I got the Vette.They are very light weight & do not out-gas,or leak,so there is no corrosion.
You can remote mount them on the interior of a car without a box or vent.The terminals on mine are as clean as the day I bought it.
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That's a 25 lb battery! Wow, light. Does the pic show it laying on its side?? Checked out the mfg's website and I'd say you have the PC 925MJT battery by the looks of the picture. Is that correct?

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It's standing on it's side.
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What are you using for the battery hold downs??? I think I'm getting one!!! Mfg's only an hours drive from my office.

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I've used the 925 for two years now and had no problems what so ever. Mine is mounted on its side also.



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Anyone ever move an Odyssey (or equivalent) battery to the rear ? I'm looking for insights on how to do this.
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I've used the 925 for two years now and had no problems what so ever. Mine is mounted on its side also.



Slick install.

Where'd ya' get the holddown mount??

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Originally Posted by Thanatos
I use a 925 it's been in this car for three years+,and was in two cars before I got the Vette.They are very light weight & do not out-gas,or leak,so there is no corrosion.
You can remote mount them on the interior of a car without a box or vent.The terminals on mine are as clean as the day I bought it.
Okay, looking at the spec sheets on the type 78 battery which is recommended for my 1999 and looking at the spec sheet for the type 925MJT which you have. Big differences in the PHCA and CCA's. I live in San Diego so not worried (EVER) about it getting to freezing ( ) so no sure about the cranking amps, etc. Are you saying the type 925 is all you need? We don't need to lug around the 50 lb monster type 78 and and use this sweet little thing in lieu of??

I've got West Coast Batteries' phone number and they're about an hour from my office. I'm ready to go up today and get one...but which one??

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Slick install.

Where'd ya' get the holddown mount??

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Found the mount. Listed in the battery mfg. website. I'm liking what I see, now to know if I face any problems as I'm running big amps on the stereo (previous owner, I'm too old for that s#@t).

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Originally Posted by Padrino
Found the mount. Listed in the battery mfg. website. I'm liking what I see, now to know if I face any problems as I'm running big amps on the stereo (previous owner, I'm too old for that s#@t).

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I can't comment on the output for large amplifiers,my car is to loud for tunes.I have had this in two turbocharged track cars
never had a problem with even very hot starts.Cold winters here,I store the car in winter,but it starts fine in the cold.

Last C5's hold down is sweet,I'll have to pick one up
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Anyone ever move an Odyssey (or equivalent) battery to the rear ? I'm looking for insights on how to do this.
Here's a link to instructions for the Ligenfelter remote mount kit.With the 925 you don't need the box or vent. http://www.lingenfelter.com/pdf/batt...nsversion2.pdf
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Here's a link to instructions for the Ligenfelter remote mount kit.With the 925 you don't need the box or vent. http://www.lingenfelter.com/pdf/batt...nsversion2.pdf
Damn, lots of cutting, trimming and drilling
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Okay, spoke with the mfg. These things are expensive. Before I go and spend some $200 + I need some more input, in particular on the 925 model.

Question, will this work for a daily driver???

I've had the famed steering column lock in the last few days it might be due to a bad battery. Will the 925 provide enough constant juice to avoid the system reading low battery? Will it give me enough juice to run my A/C?? With the stereo amps the previous owner put in will I run into trouble with enough juice. I live in S.Cal so freezing temp's are not a worry...ever . Is there any down side to down sizing the battery??????

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Originally Posted by Padrino
Okay, spoke with the mfg. These things are expensive. Before I go and spend some $200 + I need some more input, in particular on the 925 model.

Question, will this work for a daily driver???

I've had the famed steering column lock in the last few days it might be due to a bad battery. Will the 925 provide enough constant juice to avoid the system reading low battery? Will it give me enough juice to run my A/C?? With the stereo amps the previous owner put in will I run into trouble with enough juice. I live in S.Cal so freezing temp's are not a worry...ever . Is there any down side to down sizing the battery??????

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Hi , Below is a post I did for another thread. It has some good info. If you are running major amplifiers, you might want to consider a deep cycle battery for the sound system and a normal starting battery for the car.
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Hi, I've not had any first hand experience with an Odyssey AGM, so I did a bit of checking. It appears that it is a typical AGM with all the advantages, and also the disadvantages. If you are going to use an Odyssey, keeping it charged is still every bit as important as any other battery. And there are many chargers that won't keep it charged. Below is an excerpt from Odyssey's web site on charging. It is important reading if you use this type battery.
A good quality lead acid battery designed for daily charge/discharge cycling may be advertised to have a 2,000-cycle life, when discharged 20% each time (80% charge remaining) where as the Oddyssey is advertised to have a 400 charge/ discharge cycle life, which is typical of deep cycle batteries,(These batteries are capable of providing engine cranking pulses in excess of 2250A for 5 seconds as well as 400 charge/discharge cycles to 80% depth of discharge (DOD). A typical starting, lighting and ignition (SLI) battery can do one or the other, but not both. ). They advertise it as a combination starting/ deep cycle type, but there is always a trade off when using lead acid which it does even though it is AGM.
Bottom line as far as my opinion is concerned FWIW, is that it is super expensive for a car battery, when Delco pro will do everything you want it to do. and cost a lot less. If you needed it for a construction vehicle or boat, or airplane, it might be worth the cost for ruggedness sake, but not really neccessary for a car. I'm not saying it is a bad battery, just not worth the cost. INMO. Also the warranty for the one that would fit in the vette is 4 years, where as the Delco Pro is 50 months, and the remainder of 7 years pro rata.
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SEE BELOW
Charging ODYSSEY® batteries
The information on this page discusses battery charging. For available battery chargers, click here
Proper Charger Selection
A critical factor in the proper use of a rechargeable battery is charging. Inadequate or improper charging is the most common cause of premature failure of rechargeable lead acid batteries.
Small, portable automotive chargers may be used to charge your ODYSSEY® battery. These chargers are essentially designed to bring a discharged battery to a state of charge (SOC) that is high enough to crank an engine. Once this is successfully accomplished it is up to the engine alternator to fully charge the battery. It is important to keep this design philosophy in mind when using this type of charger.
There is another class of chargers that is designed specifically to maintain the battery in a high state of charge. These chargers, such as the 1.25 amp Battery Tender® from Deltran are not capable of charging a deeply discharged ODYSSEY® battery. This is due to the fact that these chargers have very low output power. They should only be used either to continuously compensate for parasitic losses or to maintain a trickle charge on a fully charged stored battery.
(A) Selecting the right charger for your battery
Small portable automotive chargers can also be used, as long as certain suitability criteria are met. Qualifying these chargers for your ODYSSEY® battery is a simple two-step process.
Step 1 - Charger output voltage
Determining the charger output voltage is the most important step in the charger qualification process. If the voltage output from the charger is less than 14.2V or more than 15V for a 12V battery do not use the charger. This output voltage is measured on the battery terminals with the charger charging, the voltage is steady and the output current has begun to decline. For 24V battery systems the charger output voltage should be between 28.4V and 30V. If the charger output voltage falls within these voltage limits when the battery approaches a fully charged state, low output current, proceed to Step 2; otherwise pick another charger.
Step 2 - Charger type — automatic or manual
The two broad types of small, portable chargers available today are classified as either automatic or manual. Automatic chargers can be further classified as those that charge the battery up to a certain voltage and then shut off and those that charge the battery up to a certain voltage and then switch to a lower float (trickle) voltage.
An example of the first type of automatic charger is one that charges a battery up to 14.5V, then immediately shuts off. An example of the second type of automatic charger would bring the battery up to 14.5V then switch to a float (trickle) voltage of 13.6V; it will stay at that level indefinitely. The second type of automatic charger is preferred as the first type of charger is likely to undercharge the battery.
A manual charger typically puts out a single voltage and has to be manually switched off to prevent battery overcharge. Should you choose to use a manual charger with your ODYSSEY® battery, do not exceed charge times suggested in Table III below.
(B) Selecting battery type on your charger output
While it is not possible to cover every type of battery charger available today in a product guide such as this, this section will try to give the ODYSSEY® battery user some general charger usage guidelines to follow, after the charger has been qualified for use with this battery.
In general, do not use either the gel cell or maintenance free setting, if provided on your charger. Choose the deep cycle option, should there be one on your charger. Table III below provides suggestions on charge times based on charger currents.
Table III: Suggested charge times for ODYSSEY® batteries
Model
Charge time for 100% discharged battery
10A charger
20A charger
PC 310
48 minutes 24 minutes
PC 535
1.5 hour 45 minutes
PC 545
1.5 hour 45 minutes
PC 625
2 hour 1 hour
PC 680
2 hour 1 hour
PC 925
2.5 hour 1.25 hour
PC 1200
4 hour 2 hour
PC 1700
7 hour 3.5 hour
PC 2150 9 hour 4.5 hour
Note that the charge times recommended in Table III are based on an assumption that the ODYSSEY® battery is fully discharged with an open circuit voltage of 11.6 volts. If the battery is only partially discharged the charge times should be appropriately reduced.
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