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JFP/JPR ELECTRIC WATER PUMP (Reverse flow) ..here ya go
"Well, for those of you who have waited for this day, it's finally here. The Jay Fisher Pontiac (JFP)/Joe Prince Racing (JPR) Billet Electric Water Pump is now scheduled for production and available to the public. All of the testing, measuring and pricing is finally done. We know it's been a long time coming, but wait was worth it. Pricing has been set at $849.95, which includes everything necessary to install the complete assembly in a matter of hours. Installation should take no more then four hours, beginning to end. The hardest part of the whole installation will be assembling the braided lines. Every other part of the installation is straight forward and requires no special tools or mechanical abilities. The JFP/JPR pump works on all vehicles equipped with an LS1 engine, such as all 1997-2002 Corvettes and V8-equipped 1998-2002 Camaros and Firebirds. This pump will also work on all LS1-derivative engine, too, such as the 4.8-, 5.3- and 6.0-liter engines found in most 1999-2002 GM full-size trucks and sport utilities. The parts includes with the JFP/JPR Electric Water Pump are as follows:
1) Pump Body with required fittings and gaskets
2) Remote-mount pump with all electrical attachments and mounting parts
3) Five feet of braided line
4) All fittings required to connect the remote-mount pump to the housing body
5) Plug to replace the temperature sensor when relocating it from the cylinder head to the water pump body.
Testing has confirmed of an average ET reduction of two-tenths, and a gain of two mph in the quarter mile. These figures were accomplished on two stock 1999 6-speed Trans Ams and a modified 2000 Camaro SS, equipped with an automatic. When the improved times were accomplished on these vehicles, none of them had received any other changes besides the installation of the water pump. It was also found that by removing the accessory belt, a function you can perform safely with this pump, an additional ET reduction of 1.5 tenths and a gain of 1.5 mph was had. The JFP/JPR Electric Waterpump is a must for car with increased cylinder pressure and, or higher operating temperatures, such as supercharged, or turbocharged cars. LS1-powered vehicles equipped with increased compression and, or larger displacement engines are also great candidates for this pump. Although the JFP/JPR Electric Water Pump is an off-road design, it still retains full functionality for unsurpassed reliability and streetability. "
I think I see one of these on my future mod list. I think it would work pretty nice with the stroker going in this winter. The reverse cooling might let me squeak a few more ponies out of it because more timing can be run from the cooler intake charge.
I will wait it out and see what the guys on ls1.com think of it and go from there. Sounds very promising though and it has been cool to watch it through its developing and testing stages over the past year.
It looks very good as well and I hear it sheds a few lbs off the front of the car.
Re: JFP/JPR ELECTRIC WATER PUMP (Reverse flow) ..here ya go (intel55)
intel55, You say it would be good for SC application, can you describe the belt situation a little more and if the HP gains would be porpotionate.
Thanxs,
JB
JB,
I was told by Jay that it will work just fine with an s/c, but that with an ati kit, not sure on yours, but I assume that it will work. I will be using one to help control detonation on higher boost, as the heads are cooled first on this reverse cooling pump. Also to shed a few pounds. :smash:
Once I get mine (should be real soon) I will post some pics and give ya a more informative view of this pump. :cheers:
MDL:
Here is a quote from Jay tO Nick Agostino about the Mez. pump thath Nick had posted on LS1.com
"And to answer your question about comparing our pump to the Meziere unit... There is no comparison. The Meziere unit is a race-only piece that requires custom accessory bracketry and routing. Also, the Meziere unit provides conventional cooling. Lastly, the Meziere pump has no thermostat or heater provisions. Our unit is designed to work perfectly on the street for the life of the vehicle, sacrificing no reliability, drivability, or functionality" :cheers:
It probably means that the pump does not let the engine come up to temp fast enough to meet emissions.
Also it means your engine got damaged during racing, not by the
pump which may have not managed the engines thermal load properly to all the cylinders and heads under ALL normal traffic and environmental conditions.
"Electric Water Pump is an off-road design"
What the hell does this mean???
EB_Z06
It means it's a great big fat flag for GM to wave on a warranty dispute should one arise on an engine that has this pump on it. :eek: Not that the pump may have anything to do with a problem, but it sounds like lawyerese to me.
MDL:
Here is a quote from Jay tO Nick Agostino about the Mez. pump thath Nick had posted on LS1.com
"And to answer your question about comparing our pump to the Meziere unit... There is no comparison. The Meziere unit is a race-only piece that requires custom accessory bracketry and routing. Also, the Meziere unit provides conventional cooling. Lastly, the Meziere pump has no thermostat or heater provisions. Our unit is designed to work perfectly on the street for the life of the vehicle, sacrificing no reliability, drivability, or functionality" :cheers:
That's what I was trying to inform you about--- they are developing a unit now that incorporates all the accesory bracketing and uses the stock belt pully's--that much I know...
I cannot comment on the thermo issue, though-- that's a very valid point...I'll mail him and ask about that :cheers:
I am not too sure that the Meziere is a reverse flow pump either. From how I understand it, the reverse flow of the JFP/JPR pump is what gives most of the performance gains. I think there is only a couple hp to gain from not actually spinning the pump with a belt and the rest is gained by the cooler intake charge in the chambers because the heads are cooled before the rest of the engine.
I sent a message to Meziere asking them to elaborate on the changes they're making to the LS1 pump and telling him about the one you're all talking about here---I'll let you all know what the reply is:) :cheers:
Guys guys... this pump, in my opinion is really geared, towards hardecore users looking to squeeze out that extra lil drop of power. Be it autox or drag racing. Otherwise, the price to performance is not justified. Thisis not just another bolt-on hp increasing mod for the casual driver. The price is only justified (my opinion) for those who are running full tilt.
thath being said....oooohhhhh boy (saying it like that guy from animal house :D )I cannot wait till mine arrives!! :smash: :crazy: :smash: :cheers: :cool: :eek:
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