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Old Jun 12, 2008 | 11:41 AM
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advise and help. I have '04 vert, all stock. The passenger side remote mirror will move in and out ok but, not up or down. Motor does not make any noise, click etc when trying to move up or down. Driver side operates ok. I think my first step is to remove the glass mirror but before I break the glass I am asking for advise. I think the motor may be jamed. Thanks in advance...

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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 10:22 AM
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OK, I got the glass mirror off and back in place withou breaking the glass. Sorry to say that I did not see any mmechanical problems. The adjuster to move mirror up or down does not move when button is pushed. What next guys?

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Old Jun 13, 2008 | 04:10 PM
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OK, I got the glass mirror off and back in place withou breaking the glass. Sorry to say that I did not see any mmechanical problems. The adjuster to move mirror up or down does not move when button is pushed. What next guys?

Ray
Hi, does the driver side function ok? If the dr side is ok, then the most likely culprit is the motor in the pass side mirror. The switch controls both. Just as a last ditch effort before replacing the motor, you could try manually moving it back and forth a few times in case it's stuck, but it probably is a bad motor.
Good Luck
Below is instructions to remove and replace.
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Motor Replacement - Power Mirror
Removal Procedure
Remove the door trim panel. Refer to Trim Panel Replacement - Door .



Disconnect the electrical connector to the mirror wire harness.

Caution
Approved safety glasses and gloves should be worn when performing this procedure to reduce the chance of personal injury.


Remove the mirror face. Refer to Mirror Face Replacement .
Remove the screws from the mirror motor.
Pull the motor electrical harness through the mirror housing.



Remove the motor from the mirror housing.
Installation Procedure




Position the motor to the mirror housing.
Pull the motor electrical harness through the mirror housing to the inside door panel.

Notice
Use the correct fastener in the correct location. Replacement fasteners must be the correct part number for that application. Fasteners requiring replacement or fasteners requiring the use of thread locking compound or sealant are identified in the service procedure. Do not use paints, lubricants, or corrosion inhibitors on fasteners or fastener joint surfaces unless specified. These coatings affect fastener torque and joint clamping force and may damage the fastener. Use the correct tightening sequence and specifications when installing fasteners in order to avoid damage to parts and systems.


Install the screws to the mirror motor. Tighten
Tighten the mirror motor screws to 10 N·m (89 lb in).

Install the mirror face to the mirror housing. Refer to Mirror Face Replacement .



Connect the electrical connector to the mirror wire harness.
Check the operation of the mirror.
Install the door trim panel. Refer to Trim Panel Replacement - Door .

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Trim Panel Replacement - Door
Removal Procedure





Important
To reduce the chance of damage to the trim panel leave the switch in the panel until after the panel is removed from the door.


Lower the door window.
Remove the inside handle bezel. Refer to Handle Bezel Replacement - Inside .



Remove the pull handle plug.



Remove the screws behind the pull handle plug.




Notice
Insert the fastener removal tool between the male fastener, which is attached to the trim panel, and the female retainer, which is in the door. Incorrectly inserting the tool between the head of the female retainer and the door will break the fasteners.


For better sight access to the fasteners start by first prying out the fastener at the rear of the trim panel that is approximately 50 mm (2 in) up from the trim panel seam. Pry out the remaining trim panel fasteners working your way forward.
Lift the trim panel up off the upper retainers and reposition the panel by the door.



Remove the harness connector from the switch.
Remove the trim panel with absorber, switch, and speaker grill.
Remove any trim panel upper retainers that remained on the door.
Transfer parts as necessary.
Installation Procedure




Reinstall any loose upper retainers to the door trim panel.
Position the trim panel near the door and install the switch harness to the switch.



Install the trim panel to the top of the door engaging the upper retainers.
Align all the trim panel side and lower fasteners with the retainers in the door.



Press the trim panel firmly to the door at each fastener location.

Notice
Use the correct fastener in the correct location. Replacement fasteners must be the correct part number for that application. Fasteners requiring replacement or fasteners requiring the use of thread locking compound or sealant are identified in the service procedure. Do not use paints, lubricants, or corrosion inhibitors on fasteners or fastener joint surfaces unless specified. These coatings affect fastener torque and joint clamping force and may damage the fastener. Use the correct tightening sequence and specifications when installing fasteners in order to avoid damage to parts and systems.


Install the screws behind the pull handle. Tighten
Tighten the pull handle screws to 6 N·m (53 lb in).





Install the pull handle plug.



Install the bezel to the handle.
Position the bezel around the inside door handle.
Push firmly on the bezel to engage the locking tabs to the door.

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Mirror Face Replacement
Removal Procedure

Caution
When working with any type of glass or sheet metal with exposed or rough edges, wear approved safety glasses and gloves in order to reduce the chance of personal injury.






Push in on 1 edge of the mirror face glass tilting the mirror case to allow finger access.
Grasp the glass case firmly and pull the case from the mirror body.
Disconnect the wire connectors from the case (heated mirror).
Remove the 2 jackscrews from the mirror glass case.



Bend the jackscrew over.
Press down on the side of the jackscrew popping the jackscrew from the mirror glass case.
Save the jackscrews for reinstallation to the mirror motor.
Installation Procedure

Caution
When working with any type of glass or sheet metal with exposed or rough edges, wear approved safety glasses and gloves in order to reduce the chance of personal injury.



IMPORTANT
The mirror glass case is not the same for the right and left mirror. For ease of assembly of the mirror glass case place a little white lithium grease on the motor pivot and on the tip of the installed jackscrews.






The jackscrew springs must be positioned down compressing the fingers at the bottom of the jackscrews. Push to install the jackscrews into the mirror motor.



Rotate both jackscrews to position the ball flanges to be inline with the attaching hub. They will then be correctly positioned to the mirror glass case. (This is shown in the above graphic).
Connect the electrical connectors to the mirror glass case (heated mirror).



Align the case to the mirror motor.
With the palm of your gloved hand press firmly on the center of the mirror glass case until the case engages onto the motor.
Push the mirror glass case to the jackscrews.
Right mirror. Rotate the mirror glass case down and press firmly on the lower side engaging the mirror glass case to the lower jackscrew.
Left mirror. Rotate the mirror glass case up and press firmly on the upper side engaging the mirror glass case to the upper jackscrew.
Rotate the mirror glass case and press firmly on the outer side engaging the mirror glass case to the outer jackscrew. The jackscrews will give a clicking noise when properly seated.

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Old Jun 14, 2008 | 08:02 AM
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Default thanks, yes the driver side works OK

I will try to trouble shoot the motor.

Ray
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Old Jun 14, 2008 | 08:18 AM
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I had a similar problem with the power mirrors on my Chevy S-10 pickup. It was actually the switch, not the mirror motor.
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